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  1. #161
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balbanes View Post
    And by you/us I mean both consummate XI vets as well as the staunch "old-school-ways" XIV supporter.

    Yoshida is not remaking FFXIV for us on the boards here. The game is not going to be made into XI 2.0 nor is it going to be the base XIV -- only with more content. And this is a good thing.

    No doubt after Yoshida took over from the failed launch and replaced Tanaka, he must have begun to analyze why the game was so unpopular; glaring technical shortcomings notwithstanding. Many people chimed in on the player polls, and continue to do so now with the forums. However, a lot of people here don't seem to want to accept that his plan is for the bigger picture, not just for those of us who stuck around.

    The current, small playerbase will not save XIV, no matter how happy it's made. Remaking XIV in XI's shadow will not save this game. Sticking to Tanaka's vision will not save this game. The only way to save this game is to make it marketable to as many people as possible. How do we know this? Well, besides the obvious fact that more subs = more profits = more successful, Yoshida has already announced changes made to appeal to a wider playerbase.
    * Auto-attack
    * Enmity gauge
    * Instanced dungeons & Raids
    * More solo friendly

    That's not to say that we're going to be overlooked. Yoshida's vision includes gameplay for all styles. But ultimately, he is looking at the bigger picture, and that is more people playing. On a huge scale.

    Oh, and they are, of course, working as fast as they can. However, they're not going to make the major mistake the previous administration did and rush it out the door. It will take time. So to all of you who are threatining to leave if 1.18 doesn't meet up with your exacting standards, or because we're getting auto-attack or an enmity gauge, sorry... you're not part of the bigger picture. Deal with it.


    I will say this though to all you guys chomping at the bit. Take a few steps back for a while. Play other games until all these battle changes are hammered out. Check up on the game every now and then, and give the devs some good, constructive feedback. You'd be amazed how much easier it is to follow XIV's progress from a distance, rather than going crazy waiting every day.
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  2. #162
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlock View Post
    Yeah you and Elexia insist in misusing this word when talking about FFXIV
    Way to miss the point.
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  3. #163
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balbanes View Post
    And by you/us I mean both consummate XI vets as well as the staunch "old-school-ways" XIV supporter.

    Yoshida is not remaking FFXIV for us on the boards here. The game is not going to be made into XI 2.0 nor is it going to be the base XIV -- only with more content. And this is a good thing.

    No doubt after Yoshida took over from the failed launch and replaced Tanaka, he must have begun to analyze why the game was so unpopular; glaring technical shortcomings notwithstanding. Many people chimed in on the player polls, and continue to do so now with the forums. However, a lot of people here don't seem to want to accept that his plan is for the bigger picture, not just for those of us who stuck around.

    The current, small playerbase will not save XIV, no matter how happy it's made. Remaking XIV in XI's shadow will not save this game. Sticking to Tanaka's vision will not save this game. The only way to save this game is to make it marketable to as many people as possible. How do we know this? Well, besides the obvious fact that more subs = more profits = more successful, Yoshida has already announced changes made to appeal to a wider playerbase.
    * Auto-attack
    * Enmity gauge
    * Instanced dungeons & Raids
    * More solo friendly

    That's not to say that we're going to be overlooked. Yoshida's vision includes gameplay for all styles. But ultimately, he is looking at the bigger picture, and that is more people playing. On a huge scale.

    Oh, and they are, of course, working as fast as they can. However, they're not going to make the major mistake the previous administration did and rush it out the door. It will take time. So to all of you who are threatining to leave if 1.18 doesn't meet up with your exacting standards, or because we're getting auto-attack or an enmity gauge, sorry... you're not part of the bigger picture. Deal with it.


    I will say this though to all you guys chomping at the bit. Take a few steps back for a while. Play other games until all these battle changes are hammered out. Check up on the game every now and then, and give the devs some good, constructive feedback. You'd be amazed how much easier it is to follow XIV's progress from a distance, rather than going crazy waiting every day.

    what a perfect flame post without actually playing it (its from 2011) ;X and so many false assumptions

    * Instanced dungeons & Raids
    FFXI -> instanced raids and dungeons as well, some openworld dungeons.

    the same for A Realm Reborn -> openworld dungeons still going to be there (at EVERY level), instanced raids and dungeons

    * Auto-attack
    eh...
    FFXI-> auto attack
    anything to say more? X.X

    * More solo friendly
    With Guildleves in 1.0. you could do maximum level on your own.




    and who the hell had to dig out (necro post) this necro thread?!


    Quote Originally Posted by Pwnagraphic View Post
    you didnt get anything. and you are posting in 2013.. not in 2011..
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    Last edited by Tonkra; 01-26-2013 at 02:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    what a perfect flame post without actually playing it (its from 2011) ;X and so many false assumptions



    FFXI -> instanced raids and dungeons as well, some openworld dungeons.

    the same for A Realm Reborn -> openworld dungeons still going to be there (at EVERY level), instanced raids and dungeons



    eh...
    FFXI-> auto attack
    anything to say more? X.X



    With Guildleves in 1.0. you could do maximum level on your own.




    and who the hell had to dig out (necro post) this necro thread?!




    you didnt get anything. and you are posting in 2013.. not in 2011..
    All I really got from your post is that you simply disagreed with his view on the subject and decided to call him a flamer because of it.

    Hear that big "splat" sound? That's the credibility of your post, hitting the rocky bottom of the cliff it just jumped off of.
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  6. #165
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    ..... Hold on the OP posted this in.....Did I just somehow get teleported to 2011? Louisoix you tricky devil you!
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  7. #166
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    Some people forget that they want to keep XI going strong and make XIV a 100% complete different experience than XI was or currently is. They don't want to make XIV like XI at all if they can help it because they don't want to pull any of their XI only subscribers to XIV though on the other end of that spectrum they do want the guys who will play both MMO's or the guys who quit XI to come try XIV. So they have to be very careful not to add too much of what made FFXI good into FFXIV, so they pull in tidbits but generally keep everything going in the opposite direction.
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    Welcome to the XIV forums. When we can't find anything new to complain about, we simply bring up topics that have been beaten to death.


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    GO!
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  9. #168
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    Quote Originally Posted by GavenBylander View Post


    ..... Hold on the OP posted this in.....Did I just somehow get teleported to 2011? Louisoix you tricky devil you!
    ROFL - I didn't even think to blame Louisoix for the necrothread. That's hillarious!
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  10. #169
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    OP, so you're saying throw everything FFXI successfully did and don't implement it into FFXIV? where did I hear this argument before? oh, that's right, when FFXIV 1.0 was launched. How did that theory go?

    Wait... did I just responded to a necro post from 2011 O_O

    stupid, stupid, stupid!!!
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    What a beautiful thread...
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    Last edited by Zehira; 01-26-2013 at 07:01 AM.

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