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    I've only PVP'ed in WOW, but I'm still trying to figure out how PVP has ruined anything PVE in that game. If anything, PVE balancing has been constantly ruining PVP in WOW.
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    people need to stop crying when there class isn't as good as another. they should consider it party play. not solo play so your not op or equal but part of a group. too bad to all the cry babies that die cause they want to solo every class. just pick the one class that is op then if anything. if no crying would happen no changes would be necessary. lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    I've only PVP'ed in WOW, but I'm still trying to figure out how PVP has ruined anything PVE in that game. If anything, PVE balancing has been constantly ruining PVP in WOW.
    People bitch about PvP balance which they then balance everything around PvP which when a class worked well in PvE suddenly turned to shit but became amazing in PvP.

    It was an on-going balance battle throughout most of WoW's existence.
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    From my personal experience with WoW I remember Blizzard increasing the damage of my Ret Paladin at the start of the Lich King expansion for PVE. The side effect of this was Ret Paladins dominating in PvP since the class is designed for burst damage. Blizzard quickly nerfed Ret Paladins so they didn't have as much burst damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pseudopsia View Post
    From my personal experience with WoW I remember Blizzard increasing the damage of my Ret Paladin at the start of the Lich King expansion. The side effect of this was Ret Paladins dominating in PvP since the class is designed for burst damage. Blizzard quickly nerfed Ret Paladins so they didn't have as much burst damage.
    The net effect being that their PVE damage and role stayed the same, they just fixed how overpowered they were in PVP. That's always been the cycle in WOW: buff/change classes to fit the PVE model, then fix anything that broke with it in PVP later on. It was never the other way around, and no serious MMO has it that way either.

    Quote Originally Posted by strallaalaa View Post
    people need to stop crying when there class isn't as good as another. they should consider it party play. not solo play so your not op or equal but part of a group. too bad to all the cry babies that die cause they want to solo every class. just pick the one class that is op then if anything. if no crying would happen no changes would be necessary. lol.
    Have you ever considered that people want to play the class that they find fun and not be ostracized for it?
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    to bad, you can't expect to pick a healer class and be equal. but again that is why pve mmo's and pvp ones should always be separate. waist of time and resources trying to get it right or make people happy.
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    Yet keep throwing WoW into the mix where people get ostracized for trying to do a build they personally find fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strallaalaa View Post
    to bad, you can't expect to pick a healer class and be equal. but again that is why pve mmo's and pvp ones should always be separate. waist of time and resources trying to get it right or make people happy.
    Nobody picks a class with a vastly defined role and expect to play a completely different role. But when someone picks a DD class, they expect to be a DD and not be excluded from content because their class is useless at its role.

    I have no idea what you're getting at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Yet keep throwing WoW into the mix where people get ostracized for trying to do a build they personally find fun.
    Has been fixed with the latest WOW expansion.
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    oh! be surprised is response.
    sorry the late reply.

    PvP or PvE be different.
    PvE not stranger there is a part make good.
    PvE(Pleyer versus Enemy). Enemy not pleyer but mob and so forth computer algorithm.
    so not player. PvE a lot of pleyer cooperate versus computer algorithm make mob to battle.
    {†FINAL FANTASY XIV for example eidolon(primals) battle is imitate.}
    that battle also player happy content is I think.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zehira View Post
    I want PvP!

    Japanese vs American (Do you need it?)
    japanese, not american go to war!
    this most japanese player, not dispute like.
    so most japanese not PvP like.
    there no doubt about it.

    PvE in play Guild Wars II to cooperate subversive intense play!
    for that reason FINAL FANTASY XIV A Realm Reborn in content if it is delightful I think.

    japanese player to english player to world player to an opponent not lose computer algorithm make mob to intense battle able I think.
    that climb over a wall of language intense play think.

    that the present global MMORPG to aim for the top need think.
    †FINAL FANTASY XIV, Guild Wars II, compared to that grasp.
    what’s like content finder.
    how FINAL FANTASY XIV A Realm Reborn I FINAL FANTASY fan as how look forward to FINAL FANTASY XIV A Realm Reborn♪

    at times Google translation and excite translation to use.
    but they no avail I already know.

    later I do not have much time.
    look nine reply please? Reinheart.

    this place AM 03:00 has passed.
    I have to go to bed!

    see you later♪
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