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  1. #1771
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solace View Post
    PS: Please don't think I am bashing.
    I have gay friends and family that I have total respect for.
    I understand that you don't really mean anything by it, and your point about not wanting marriage in the game at all is fair, but please don't use this to justify yourself. Having loved ones who happen to be LGBT is not a free pass to say whatever you like about the whole community without fear of being called out on it.
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  2. #1772
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solace View Post
    I just want to enjoy the game..
    i don't think he has to justify himself at all for saying his opinion in a feedback thread.
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    ----- Pour l'amitié franco-allemande - Für die deutsch-französische Freundschaft -----

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phe View Post
    i don't think he has to justify himself at all for saying his opinion in a feedback thread.
    I agree. Why would he have to justify himself? He said nothing wrong, or even in the slightest need of justification. All he did was post his opinion about marriage in a video game. Claiming that he would have to justify himself for that makes me say...

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  4. #1774
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phe View Post
    i don't think he has to justify himself at all for saying his opinion in a feedback thread.
    Quote Originally Posted by SkyeWindbinder View Post
    I agree. Why would he have to justify himself? He said nothing wrong, or even in the slightest need of justification. All he did was post his opinion about marriage in a video game. Claiming that he would have to justify himself for that makes me say...
    You both missed the point I was trying to get across. I wasn't saying that he should have to justify his opinion (because it justifies itself, I said right in that paragraph that his point was fair) I was saying that he should never justify his opinion by saying he has LGBT loved ones whether his opinion needs justification or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keisuna View Post
    You both missed the point I was trying to get across. I wasn't saying that he should have to justify his opinion (because it justifies itself, I said right in that paragraph that his point was fair) I was saying that he should never justify his opinion by saying he has LGBT loved ones whether his opinion needs justification or not.

    I agree with you. That's how it came across.
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    holy shit this still going on? hahahha god
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryokyu View Post
    holy shit this still going on? hahahha god
    I dunno what this thread is all about anymore. It already got enough likes and the dev team didn't listen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zehira View Post
    I dunno what this thread is all about anymore. It already got enough likes and the dev team didn't listen.
    I thought one of the better ideas was that they shouldn't have announced for or against same sex marriage, or even call it "marriage" in-game. Just put it in and don't make a big deal out of it. How do you know they didn't listen to that one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keisuna View Post
    I understand that you don't really mean anything by it, and your point about not wanting marriage in the game at all is fair, but please don't use this to justify yourself. Having loved ones who happen to be LGBT is not a free pass to say whatever you like about the whole community without fear of being called out on it.
    This is EXACTLY what I was talking about and reason why this thread should just be removed..
    People get all up in arms and try to start burning people at the stake..
    Either conform to what they want you to believe or you are a scumbag.
    There is no winning with this topic.. I am not posting in it again and seriously. No one else should either.

    I take the time to try to say something like a decent person and of course I get my words totally twisted and turned around on me by some hate monger.. Classic..

    And then you go on to try to justify yourself.
    Maybe you are the one who needs justification.
    I don't. Nothing I said requires it..

    Quote Originally Posted by Keisuna View Post
    You both missed the point I was trying to get across. I wasn't saying that he should have to justify his opinion (because it justifies itself, I said right in that paragraph that his point was fair) I was saying that he should never justify his opinion by saying he has LGBT loved ones whether his opinion needs justification or not.
    That is not what you said at all but I like how you tried to cover your bashing tracks..
    You forgot this part:

    "is not a free pass to say whatever you like about the whole community without fear of being called out on it"

    Did I say anything I want to say about the community?
    You act like I went on some kind of bashing tirade and people LIKED what you said, as if you said something?
    Did I insult the community? No.
    But you imply I did then go on immediately to justify your little hate speech..
    This is the pot calling the kettle black if I ever saw it..

    Now I know why so many people avoid this thread.
    Of course it has more likes than dislikes.
    Only some people are zealot enough, to try to shove their lifestyle down your throat..
    You want a same sex marriage game and you want to turn every game you play into some kind of stage for equal rights.. Go make a game then.. Keep FF out of this..
    This is NOT your stage and this is NOT your life..
    It's a game... You know the difference right?

    \Done..
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    Last edited by Solace; 01-25-2013 at 10:33 AM.

  10. #1780
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArkhamNative View Post
    I thought one of the better ideas was that they shouldn't have announced for or against same sex marriage, or even call it "marriage" in-game. Just put it in and don't make a big deal out of it. How do you know they didn't listen to that one?
    Maybe, they didn't realize that announcing an in-game marriage was a bad idea because it already caused Americans who have freedom rights... flaming this thread! Maybe they wanted to leave it alone 1-2 years from now until then if they feel comfortable bringing up a same-sex marriage without being sued by other countries.

    Yoshi-P knew Japan and America have homosexual people but not sure about other countries.

    Nevertheless, like I give a shit about an "in-game marriage" because you see I am an heterosexual guy who likes to play with my beloved girl but I can't marry another woman!?! lol
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