Letter from the Producer XLI

[Abriael]

Unfortunately for you, no you didn't.

Luckily for me, what you said is there for everyone to see.

Sadly, as long as people decide to attack what people say this will always happen.

If you didn't continue to spout unwarranted negativity based on hot air, people wouldn't attack what you say.

[Hulan]

I'm really starting to worry about the health of 2.0. Every time I come here I imagine new players walking into the forums for the first time on opening day and....

[Abriael]

I'm really starting to worry about the health of 2.0. Every time I come here I imagine new players walking into the forums for the first time on opening day and....

You must not read MMORPG forums a lot. Any of them.

[Nuinn]

Lots of "pot calling the kettle black" going on in here. . . .

[Elexia]

Luckily for me, what you said is there for everyone to see. .

Except no one said what you're accusing of. You stated that, not me. You decided to attack me out of the blue.

If you didn't continue to spout unwarranted negativity based on hot air, people wouldn't attack what you say.

Except no one was being negative. Why else would you swap notes with western/eastern developers? They know their markets. Yoshida's own words was he felt they should take WoW and merge it with FF, which people consider "the global standard" and pretty much what everyone follows since. Unless you happened to forget that he's met with Blizzard as well.

[Abriael]

Except no one said what you're accusing of. You stated that, not me. You decided to attack me out of the blue.

You use the wording "standard western MMORPG", which Dark Age of Camelot isn't (nor is Warhammer Online), and A Realm Reborn isn't as well.

There's no "out of the blue". You said something utterly nonsensical and fairly ignorant, and got called on it.

Except no one was being negative. Why else would you swap notes with western/eastern developers? They know their markets. Yoshida's own words was he felt they should take WoW and merge it with FF, which people consider "the global standard" and pretty much what everyone follows since. Unless you happened to forget that he's met with Blizzard as well.

You completely misrepresented Yoshida's words.

Looking at what the competition does, which is indispensible to cultivate one's market awareness, doesn't in any way imply doing something "standard". Which ARR isn't anyway, as everything we've seen so far clearly shows.

[Klefth]

...The whole "standardizing" the game deal came from Yoshida himself. It's been said in plenty of interviews since forever. You're just arguing for the sake of arguing at this point.

[Ticks]

Although I won't be playing one, I'm impressed with how female Roegadyns turned out. Concept art made them seem perhaps a little too burly but they worked in some sleeker lines quite nicely. I wonder how much of an option there will be for bulk, seeing as how Merlwyb is a Roe but also quite slender.

I was going to say - I thought Merlwyb was a Roe - thanks Myranda^^

[Abriael]

...The whole "standardizing" the game deal came from Yoshida himself. It's been said in plenty of interviews since forever. You're just arguing for the sake of arguing at this point.

Competing with a quality standard (which is what Yoshida said) and doing something standard are absolutely different concepts.

But I'm not surprised someone would try their hardest to warp Yoshida's words.

[Elexia]

You completely misrepresented Yoshida's words. .

Nope, his statement was regarding how XI took EQ and felt that they should do the same thing with WoW, and the evidence is at your finger tips. He stated this because gamers and developers have said they consider WoW the global standard of MMOs now because of how Blizzard streamlined certain aspects. Whether you agree or not, these are words said throughout the past decadeish.

Looking at what the competition does, which is indispensible to cultivate one's market awareness, doesn't in any way imply doing something "standard".

So in other words, every developer that states they should be aware and observe their competition (including SE) were incorrect?

Which ARR isn't anyway, as everything we've seen so far clearly shows.

Everything shown so far they're observing the competition very closely.