Archanist Question(s)

[Elexia]

I hope so, still havent seen anything official on this yet. Also, no mention of Archanist in the beta roadmap even though i too remember hearing about having the archanist on release then SMN later. Hope to hear more news in the next letter from the producer thats coming this week.

To be fair, we don't really need to test the classes, since after a large FF based MMO and numerous offline titles, you'd hope they would know how to make a class/job by now lol. So probably open beta when it's a demo it'll be added since it would be for playing around with more than elaborate testing.

[Radacci]

To be fair, we don't really need to test the classes, since after a large FF based MMO and numerous offline titles, you'd hope they would know how to make a class/job by now lol. So probably open beta when it's a demo it'll be added since it would be for playing around with more than elaborate testing.

i'm sure they'd wanna hear feedback on skill balance etc.

[Wilan]

i'm sure they'd wanna hear feedback on skill balance etc.

Most companies have "professional" testers, that play content and check if there's something wrong with it and why, and even get a salary for that. A friend of mine worked at the UK SE to test localizations of FFXII (they had an announcement on the site) so I guess they can spare some yen for some people to test gameplay things.

MMOs however have such features that require a big number of testers, so they have to recruit volunteers en masse. They work for free, of course, but many people couldn't care less about giving feedback, and a lot more aren't trained at giving it. So my guess is they still rely on internal, reliable testers for core mechanics.
Just my speculations though.

[Ferth]

While the argument that with the armory system not needing to unlock a class before you can use it is certainly valid, it doesn't necessarily mean it has to work that way. In FFXI there were 6 jobs that you could use at the beginning, it didn't matter what you started as you could switch between those 6 whenever you felt like it, then the advanced jobs were unlocked later.

And while it is not an exact correlation, I could easily see a situation where to become an arcanist you need to complete a quest or series of quests and then are rewarded with your first grimoire, and that is the only level one option available to you, which would pretty much close the class off until you actually did them.

[Wilan]

While the argument that with the armory system not needing to unlock a class before you can use it is certainly valid, it doesn't necessarily mean it has to work that way. In FFXI there were 6 jobs that you could use at the beginning, it didn't matter what you started as you could switch between those 6 whenever you felt like it, then the advanced jobs were unlocked later.

And while it is not an exact correlation, I could easily see a situation where to become an arcanist you need to complete a quest or series of quests and then are rewarded with your first grimoire, and that is the only level one option available to you, which would pretty much close the class off until you actually did them.

A cheap reply to this reasoning would be that you could just borrow somebody's grimoire.
A serious reply is that they've focused on Arcanist before every other job just to give another magic class available to players, because currently we only have two magic classes opposed to five melee classes.

The idea of "advanced classes" could work, expecially for more exotic classes or classes whose guild, for example, it's not in one of the starter cities. But I think I understood that increasing the magic classes available to players was a priority for the devs.

[Klefth]

Four melee classes, two of which are tanks*

Also, remember that the starting tool or weapon for each class was U/U.

I personally don't care how they do it either way, though. Usually, the quests to unlock a new job weren't all that hard. There were maybe some that took a while due to them making travel to other half of the world and back, but most were relatively simple, so I don't care whether they make us do a quest before or not.

Adding little bit of lore as introduction to the class wouldn't hurt, though. That was something that the job quests did in XI.

[Niqote]

I wonder if the guild will still be located in Limsa Lominsa or if it will be elsewhere...hmmm

[Wilan]

I wonder if the guild will still be located in Limsa Lominsa or if it will be elsewhere...hmmm

If it wasn't, the only characters who would be born in Limsa would be the Marauders :c
In ARR, our "starting city" depends on our class, and exactly where the class' guild is located. Ever wondered why the Alpha test only allowed Lancer, Archer, Conjurer, Botanist, Carpenter and Tanner? Those are the guilds of Gridania.

[Bowen]

If it wasn't, the only characters who would be born in Limsa would be the Marauders :c
In ARR, our "starting city" depends on our class, and exactly where the class' guild is located. Ever wondered why the Alpha test only allowed Lancer, Archer, Conjurer, Botanist, Carpenter and Tanner? Those are the guilds of Gridania.

I'm not sure how I feel about this. On one hand, it makes a lot more sense lore-wise and now the guilds will probably be more important. On the other, I'm restricted by which class I can start out with if I want to be from a specific city.

[Kirito]

I don't know... maybe they will go the ff11 route and have a couple basic classes we can start with and later unlock new classes... It is because there is no guild for dancer, rune fencer, scholar, ninja in this game so if they do add them they would need to be unlock only... but that is for the far out future... whether they enable having the guilds that are currently available in the cities as possible starting chose could be possible... unless they make the guild vacant at first and you need to do a quest to bring back its members...