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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    @OP: You forget that in FFXI (specially in the case of CoP) you had zones that were designed for the story rather than the story designed around the zones. Most of those zones were too far out of the way to be of any real use to players at large.
    What you forget is that the majority of zones in XI all were designed that were based on story elements as well. In CoP there were some zones purely made for story purposes, but that was outweighed by the regular zones introduced. The only story related zones are:

    R. Site A01/B01
    Sacrarium (doubles for NM fights and subligar farming)
    Phomina Aquaducts (though doubles for other stuff like subligar farming)
    Promyvions
    Pso`Xja (doubles for other stuff)

    This is ignoring the BCNM areas and regarding the capped period. Otherwise a lot of zones were designed to be unlocked and explored through the story then later on your own (you know, like a FF game tends to do.) Everything in XI was world relevant and story relevant because the lore and storylines fit into the world like a good RPG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    What you forget is that the majority of zones in XI all were designed that were based on story elements as well.
    There's a difference between a zone that fits into the story and a zone that is designed for the story. Zi'tah and Bibiki Bay are good examples of the former. Attowa Chasm and Riverne being of the latter. I'm against the latter while being for the former.

    Otherwise a lot of zones were designed to be unlocked and explored through the story then later on your own (you know, like a FF game tends to do.) Everything in XI was world relevant and story relevant because the lore and storylines fit into the world like a good RPG.
    As always, you and I are not going to agree on that. What CoP did is use the tried and true "cluster of zones" that is typical of an expansion with a couple of scraps added to the main continent. Problem is that they created the zones exclusively for the story, and it shows when there is no real reason to be in the Archipelago outside of the CoP missions barring one or two extra things like subligar farming. Even if you were to go back in time and convince Tanaka to not put in the three promyvion requirement, the zones as designed are not inviting. You wouldn't see the kind of shift to the Archipelago as you did when Bibiki Bay opened up, much less the shift to Bafflau Thickets when TAU hit.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
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