ODIN

[SidRheingold]

All we know is that we know shits . .

[Duuude007]

Perhaps that's how Elder primals evolve... remember how after Midgardsormr takes down the flagship Agrius, it seems like he splits off into several primals?

This has been explained a little.

First and foremost, Midgarsormr is a king or guardian of wyrms/dragons, not a primal. Best guess is they keep growing with age, and it also represents their stature in dragonkin.

ANYWAYS, in the fight over silvertear falls, the great wyrm causes the ship to crash... the ceruleum which fuels the ship ignited, and killed Midgarsormr and anything nearby, but the explosion was concentrated over an ancient seal noone knew about at the center of the lake. When this seal was broken, the primals were set free.

Most likely this holds some relation to the crystal tower, and the tomb of Xandes I is near both of these elements of Mor Dhona. HOW close, or any overlap, is still unknown.

[Ramesses]

Hmmm... more analysis of the unknown. And yep Duuude, now that you reminded me I remember the lore now... Midgardsormr was initially thought to be guarding what we know as Thaliak's shrine/godstone whatever (underneath Silvertear). But that's also the tomb of Xandes innit?

Then could Odin be Emperor Xandes of the Allagan empire? (3rd or 4th Astral era). Didn't Yoshi say he's not dead and is only in cryo-sleep? The ol'chap has to be some sort of immortal to still be remotely "alive" by this time. Perhaps when the Silvertear seals were broken, he was awakened as Odin?

Or perhaps, he was always the primal elder Odin; only disguised as a mortal in the form of Xandes?

[Duuude007]

He was the first in a line of Allaghan kings, and Darnus was a distant descendant of the Allaghans.

I think Darnus's animations were concluded as Elezen lol.

...in case races are relevant, of course.

[Ramesses]

He was the first in a line of Allaghan kings, and Darnus was a distant descendant of the Allaghans.

I think Darnus's animations were concluded as Elezen lol.

...in case races are relevant, of course.

Yep, Darnus is as Elezen as they come... besides, the lore does explain that the Elezen were the first race on Eorzea by "divine" right, so its plausible to assume the ruling dynasty of the Allagans could have been Elezen.

Matter of fact, this now starts to tie into what Nael may have been up to... release Bahamut to "assassinate" the Twelve and then resurrect great great great (x 100) grandfather Xandes (who turns out to be Odin). And then eventually Darnus...(because he's ruthless like that)... gets rid of granddad and declares himself a god.

Or wait wait... just got another spiffy idea... Bahamut is so disgusted by the dark cunning in Nael's soul that he spits him back out as Odin.

Heh... the fun of speculations.

[Radacci]

Where do you get this lore from?

[nokinator]

I wonder if odin was trapped like bahaumt and has been released because of the calamity

[Duuude007]

Where do you get this lore from?

Erik from the monk quests can be spoken to outside of the questline for tons of lore info. Apart from that, its a mix of places both ingame and from Yoshi-P.

[Allesasi]

It was a key not a sword.