These forums becoming unbearable?

[viion]

Everyone cries...

Hardcore do.
Casual do.
Inbetween? Do...

People who like the game cry.
People who hate the game cry.

Does it matter?

A lot of whining is revolved around why people "dislike" a direction.
Then you have more whining revolved around why people "like" the direction.

Even suggesting things could be considered whining.

For example Op you want Jump, I hate jump, I don't want it, so because I disagree I could be whining? I'm not adding anything in my comment about how to "increase functionality" to XIV as my statement requests reduced functionality. Am I not allowed to disagree with a direction?

Then you just put this scenario into every fucking thing about the game and you have this forum, so long story short everyone whining at the end of the day. Even if subtle.

[Darkshade]

Kind of agree. It's almost like opening the forums was a mistake. Ah well, hopefully they can get everything sorted out, make a fun game and most everyone will stop being so cynical.

[wingiehai]

Everyone cries...

Hardcore do.
Casual do.
Inbetween? Do...

People who like the game cry.
People who hate the game cry.

Does it matter?

A lot of whining is revolved around why people "dislike" a direction.
Then you have more whining revolved around why people "like" the direction.

Even suggesting things could be considered whining.

For example Op you want Jump, I hate jump, I don't want it, so because I disagree I could be whining? I'm not adding anything in my comment about how to "increase functionality" to XIV as my statement requests reduced functionality. Am I not allowed to disagree with a direction?

Then you just put this scenario into every fucking thing about the game and you have this forum, so long story short everyone whining at the end of the day. Even if subtle.

No thats no whining at all you just stated you don't want jump thats fair. But whats annoying is that your angry I do want a jump, I'm just saying I would like the choice to jump is that not fair? Probably shouldn't have replied because it'll probably turn into another jump thread.

[viion]

No thats no whining at all you just stated you don't want jump thats fair. But whats annoying is that your angry I do want a jump, I'm just saying I would like the choice to jump is that not fair?

How am I angry? Are you sat next to me or something? ...

[Abriael]

You're so funny. Whatever you do people will be better than you. No matter how easy something is.

Your point being?

[wingiehai]

How am I angry? Are you sat next to me or something? ...

Why don't you answer my other question is it not fair that I guess a choice to? And your probably not angry or maybe you are, but read over your post it seems a bit angry!

[viion]

Why don't you answer my other question is it not fair that I guess a choice to? And your probably not angry or maybe you are, but read over your post it seems a bit angry!

Everyone entitled to an opinion. Thats just... Life?

I am not angry but you thinking I am has me wondering about your OP and this thread which is that it seems you have a misunderstand (or misconception) of peoples posts and what may be considered just plain whining is mere badly constructive opinions.

The question is not too important here because the subject to it can be included in all aspects of the game. You could have flying barbie girls as your opinion, of course I would disagree but no one is going to say "Shut up you're not worthy of an opinion", I've yet to see that on the forum lol.

Edit:

One thing you can notice which you might be amplifying a little is that people are getting a little fed up. We were nice during Betas, and nice when there was no conclusion of the future, but now that there is, and that many other games and studios seem to be overwhelming SE, people are getting hasty, worried and edgy. Which results in the whole bad constructive opinions and then just general bickering.

Some people seem to forget that we've had this game publically for almost almost 15 months now (march2010 I think Alpha was?). Its been a long time and looking at the changes it is not too nice.

[Shneibel]

best option is quit this forum and use it to read the news from the main page of lodes. I too will quit read stuff/disscuss in this forum as well

[Nakiamiie]

Why don't you answer my other question is it not fair that I guess a choice to? And your probably not angry or maybe you are, but read over your post it seems a bit angry!

Everyone entitled to an opinion. Thats just... Life?

I am not angry but you thinking I am has me wondering about your OP and this thread which is that it seems you have a misunderstand (or misconception) of peoples posts and what may be considered just plain whining is mere badly constructive opinions.

The question is not too important here because the subject to it can be included in all aspects of the game. You could have flying barbie girls as your opinion, of course I would disagree but no one is going to say "Shut up you're not worthy of an opinion", I've yet to see that on the forum lol.

You know... you are both right. Nobody is sitting next to nobody and sometimes there are misunderstands, both on the emotion we want to relay with the post and with the information we are trying to communicate.
Let's not start an argument here, you are both right, there is no need to get confused over the same thing.

[Elexia]

People "scream for FFXI" because all logic dictates you take what worked with your PREVIOUS MAJOR MMORPG and evolve from it, not regress to the cesspool that XIV did.