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  1. #151
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    Quote Originally Posted by gifthorse View Post
    It's just jump anyway. I can't believe a game, and an MMO at that, won't even let you jump or climb or swim or hop... only walk and run. That's so weird.
    Yup, that's the whole point of the pro-jumping feature.
    Being an explorer, these features (jumping, climbing, swimming, etc) would greatly add to the gaming experience. However, it seems, according to some opinions, that must come at the expense of other players' fun... mainly fighter-players from what I could see. Thing is, not everyone is a fighter-player in this vast world that is Eorzea, in fact, fighting is only 30% of my time while I'm logged in. However, I don't mean to say that being a fighter-player is bad thing, I really enjoy it when I have one by my side to protect me or help me get some materials from a vicious monster. The problem lies in attitude.
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    LOL cash shop! SE's way to tell their player how they appreciate them... pull the carrot and empty your pockets $$$
    And to those who support it: you are kicking yourselves. -- We just need to sit back and laugh at people with cash shop items.
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    I'm not mindlessly requesting jump features. personally i would find that if they did implement it as just a standalone asthetic feature it would be quite a waste of time. of course things have to make sense, im not argueing that :P but everything can be given a purpose, that's up to the dev teams. dont dismiss ideas until you think of all possible ways it can be done. Dont dismiss jump for jumping's sake. give it a think, give it a purpose, and its all of a sudden not rediculous at all.
    And I'm not mindlessly against jump features either. All I'm saying is that before they can give the feature a purpose, it should not be developed. This game has so many flaws or features needing polish that they don't have time to focus on the "alright I guess, but not really necessary" features.
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  3. #153
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    This game has so many flaws or features needing polish that they don't have time to focus on the "alright I guess, but not really necessary" features.
    I think Yoshi P is the one who knows best about having the time or not to do it, please let him handle the schedule (who said jumping has to come in the next update?).
    Also, most of the things in a game are "alright I guess, but not really necessary". Just like the game itself can be considered "allright I guess, but not really necessary", it is only a game after all. It is a matter of opinion and personal choice, some people like jumping, some other prefer a different kind of content. I believe both opinions can coexist in the game with all the features we both ask for.
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    LOL cash shop! SE's way to tell their player how they appreciate them... pull the carrot and empty your pockets $$$
    And to those who support it: you are kicking yourselves. -- We just need to sit back and laugh at people with cash shop items.
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    I think Yoshi P is the one who knows best about having the time or not to do it, please let him handle the schedule (who said jumping has to come in the next update?).
    I hope so, bro.
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    in general i think anything that increases the fun players have in the game is something worth adding at this stage. we cant really say in definete accuracy that the devs do or do not have a purpose set for anything. infact they could have all these purposes for jumping set in motion, or they could not, we dont know. the best we can do is voice our opinions and give the Dev team our ideas if they're finding it hard to come up with their own. They are reading these forums afterall. so we should really be coming up with as many solutions as possible. what if they took to heart all the anti-jumping posts and did nothing in that area, or - what if they took into account all the innovative things we debate in this thread and release a truely spectacular addition to the game exploration and environment. Or they could just release jumping for jumping sake. We have our chance now to say, dont release jumping for jumpings sake, but do it with a greater purpose in mind, rather than backing out of the idea completely

    Sorry for unstructured wall of text, getting tired now xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    before they can give the feature a purpose, it should not be developed.
    Just like Yoshida-san was saying with group crafting and that giant cake. First issue is what to do with it, before making it. If it has no purpose, it's useless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabiri View Post
    Just like Yoshida-san was saying with group crafting and that giant cake. First issue is what to do with it, before making it. If it has no purpose, it's useless.
    Yep, and pro-jump reasons doesn't exist in this game as of now.
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    we cant really say in definete accuracy that the devs do or do not have a purpose set for anything.
    If they do, gud. If they don't, useless feature inc.

    Just like Yoshida-san was saying with group crafting and that giant cake. First issue is what to do with it, before making it. If it has no purpose, it's useless.
    Lol exactly what I was thinking just now.

    Jumping is fine, but you gotta make it matter before implementing it hastily. What if this game never picks up after all? They won't have time to develop any purpose for the feature, yet they could have fixed the whatever flaws were pulling the game down at the time of release that made it re-fail. Thinking too much in advance at this point is risky.
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    Last edited by Betelgeuzah; 04-17-2011 at 01:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Yep, and pro-jump reasons doesn't exist in this game as of now.
    The idea of the debate is not to have jumping added tomorrow, but to know if jumping will be added at some point in time, even if it is in 1 year. Because, just like it was said, the future contents need to be built to allow jumping or not (in both case, it will take time to restrict access in the content or make place for jumping in it -- so, no delay in your future favourite content, most likely). So, just like group crafting and the big cake will come to the game later, can it be the same for jumping?
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    LOL cash shop! SE's way to tell their player how they appreciate them... pull the carrot and empty your pockets $$$
    And to those who support it: you are kicking yourselves. -- We just need to sit back and laugh at people with cash shop items.
    (Marvelous economics IQ test!)

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    If the raid dungeon uses jumping to it's advantage, as well as the future zone additions, I don't mind. They probably have at least 5 regions "ready" since last year to be implemented whenever though. I'm doubtful that those have been given any thought in regards to jumping.
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