Jump No Longer Necessary after Patch 1.17

[Zhyrios]

what is this more content created by jumping though? you say its there but you wont state what it is. I am not against adding jumping, as long as its not a gimmick but has a purpose. In every game to date all jumping is, is a gimmick you still have invisible walls or unscalable walls/mountains. Ill thank you when you make a viable argument to support your claim.

Say for example, questable dungeons with physical maze/like puzzles, requiring Jumping up and around it on ledges to get through. It lengthens and creates depth. without it, we're like to recieve another dungeon where you just walk in a straight line towards the end. What good is content when it's all the same? Jumping, climbing, swimming etc can add all new elements to exploration and gameplay, and therefore new types of content variations.

[Bled]

Say for example, questable dungeons with physical maze/like puzzles, requiring Jumping up and around it on ledges to get through. It lengthens and creates depth. without it, we're like to recieve another dungeon where you just walk in a straight line towards the end. What good is content when it's all the same? Jumping, climbing, swimming etc can add all new elements to exploration and gameplay, and therefore new types of content variations.

I want to agree with you, but i don't want this game to become and action RPG type game. IMO I'm playing the game to concur challenges not scale walls, and other terrain. Like i said though i want to agree with you adding some maze like/puzzle like content would be cool. However even the games that implement jumping don't do this so i feel like its an unwanted burden to MMORPG players as a whole.

But i will say if that were to happen i would not complain. Thank you

[Zhyrios]

I want to agree with you, but i don't want this game to become and action RPG type game. IMO I'm playing the game to concur challenges not scale walls, and other terrain. Like i said though i want to agree with you adding some maze like/puzzle like content would be cool. However even the games that implement jumping don't do this so i feel like its an unwanted burden to MMORPG players as a whole.

But i will say if that were to happen i would not complain. Thank you

It's cool. it just really bugs me when people accuse jumping being solely for the case of scaling miniature ledges in the way.

Games are made up alot of little systems, not just one big system. One small System can cause a chain reaction, creating alot of other little systems. hence more content.

However i understand people's Scepticism with the idea of jumping, cause previous games didnt innovate it to be a major aspect. But we forget that this is Square-Enix guys, They are the masters of new systems, new ways to make things fun, You can bet if jumping is added, it will be in a way that will be innovative and useful. And i'm pro jumping because i trust them to do it justice.

[Betelgeuzah]

You can bet if jumping is added, it will be in a way that will be innovative and useful.

Yoshida doesn't exactly come off as a guy that is innovative or tries to innovate. Which is what this game probably needs right now, but either way I wouldn't expect anything remarkably different from the form of jumping they are about to introduce. Maybe they will expand on it in the future, who knows.

[Mitsuhide]

I didnt test it yet but if thats the case then there is really no reason for jumping.
I dont mind if they add Dungeons e.t.c with physical maze like puzzles.(this sound actually interesting)
But I would prefer fixed animations like FFXIII, where you only can Jump when its needed or climb.

[Evangela]

I think they just did it for "temporary" solve problem before they add the jumping feature to the game

they did many temporary fixing since they can't rebuild the system immediately

so... don't be cry, we will allow to jump anyway

[gifthorse]

win!!! people who do not want jump have no reason for it and can not see the future... what about a place where you can .... Idk jump over cliffs to the next area?

People have stupid reasons for not wanting jump it DOES NOT effect your game in the least... remember you all bitching about quest flags.. notice when it was added no one said anything? because IT DOES NOT EFFECT YOUR GAMEPLAY IN ANYWAY.

You people are bitching about JUMP? think about that for a second? JUMP!!!!! who the hell cares if they add it or not but if they do IT WILL NOT KILL YOU AT ALL!!! in fact it could be the start of something cool mab??......

FF11 players are the bitchest bunch of people ever seen i wish i hated ff games after reading stupid threads like this and the posts in them so we would not have anything in common..... You people all bitch for a change and when it comes you bitch even more.....

Tell me about it.

They're like: why jump when you can just fall?

I'm like: Um, how exactly do you fall over a puddle on the ground, or fall over a whole in a bridge, or fall between two cliffs separated by a gap?

I just stare in disbelief sometimes.

[gifthorse]

There has never been one. Removing the silly invisible walls and collisions has always been the only valid solution.

You forgot to ammend your post with an "in my opinion".

[Betelgeuzah]

I'm like: Um, how exactly do you fall over a puddle on the ground, or fall over a whole in a bridge, or fall between two cliffs separated by a gap?

Yes, the amount of puddles, holes and gaps in the scenery are really dominant. Can't walk two steps without seeing one!

[gifthorse]

Yes, the amount of puddles, holes and gaps in the scenery are really dominant. Can't walk two steps without seeing one!

Well if they were everywhere then we'd have spam jumpers wouldn't we? Just out of sheer necessity.