How valuable is the hardcore opinion?

[Mack]

It has been appraised an found flawed and valueless.

Meh, considering FFXI is as hardcore as they come in every aspect of the game and considering that about 500K FFXI players could potentially make the switch to FFXIV or play it alongside FFXI I'd say its a little more valuable than vlaueless and a little less flawed than your opinion. I'd say both hardcore and casual opinions are necessary to make this game a success but no one is happy no matter what you give them...doesn't matter, this game is shaping up nicely now and it'll appease to a large portion of the fanbase by the end and hopefully everyone will have something to do.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Meh, considering FFXI is as hardcore as they come in every aspect of the game and considering that about 500K FFXI players could potentially make the switch to FFXIV or play it alongside FFXI I'd say its a little more valuable than vlaueless and a little less flawed than your opinion. I'd say both hardcore and casual opinions are necessary to make this game a success but no one is happy no matter what you give them...doesn't matter, this game is shaping up nicely now and it'll appease to a large portion of the fanbase by the end and hopefully everyone will have something to do.

ffxi no longer has a 500K playerbase. the game is going in it second server merge.

Guys please stop flashing the ffxi has a 500K playerbase, that is no longer the case anymore and not even all of those ppl were / are hardcore.
pheonix, asura, lakshmi, diablos are looking at around 700-1700 ish playerbase in the course of a checking 20 hours for 7 days.
I wish i was using random numbers.

[Mack]

ffxi no longer has a 500K playerbase. the game is going in it second server merge.

Guys please stop flashing the ffxi has a 500K playerbase, that is no longer the case anymore and not even all of those ppl were / are hardcore.
pheonix, asura, lakshmi, diablos are looking at around 700-1700 ish playerbase in the course of a checking 20 hours for 7 days.
I wish i was using random numbers.

Not my point - my point being at one point FFXI had 500K players, this means that's a potential number that might play FFXIV.

[Reika]

Not my point - my point being at one point FFXI had 500K players, this means that's a potential number that might play FFXIV.

Tho SE doesnt want to take the FFXI players into FFXIV, thats why this game is different. They would lose money if they lost FFXI players to this game. (More than they already have by making this game F2P for so long)

[Mack]

Tho SE doesnt want to take the FFXI players into FFXIV, thats why this game is different. They would lose money if they lost FFXI players to this game. (More than they already have by making this game F2P for so long)

SE wanted a larger fanbase for this game, they don't care about running both FFXI and FFXIV side by side, they expected a much larger turn up for FFXIV and that turn up is in large part due to FFXI players who were playing the game long ago and have long quit or those who are looking for something new as is to be expected of a ten year old game. They even said they made the races the same so its an easier transition for FFXI or ex-XI players.

[Neptune]

Not my point - my point being at one point FFXI had 500K players, this means that's a potential number that might play FFXIV.

Not only that Reika - but since the game couldn't maintain 500k subscribers, what does that tell you? Everybody I've ever heard of quit that game at the Dunes. Come on, other MMOs have gone on strong and built up subscribers, not FFXI. 500k was early on, like the 2nd or 3rd year of release and it's been downhill ever since WoW came out and actually took out inconveniences to players patch by patch.

[Visch]

Not only that Reika - but since the game couldn't maintain 500k subscribers, what does that tell you? Everybody I've ever heard of quit that game at the Dunes. Come on, other MMOs have gone on strong and built up subscribers, not FFXI. 500k was early on, like the 2nd or 3rd year of release and it's been downhill ever since WoW came out and actually took out inconveniences to players patch by patch.

FFXI had 500k subs up until the level cap increase. I don't know where you're making your numbers up from. Do you honestly think for a second people who stay when everything they worked for for 8 years became worthless? Do you have at least half a brain?

Obviously not if you couldn't even take valkrum dunes. You don't even have a clue what you're talking about.

Why do you think the basic structure in XIV correlates exactly to XI? Think.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

FFXI had 500k subs up until the level cap increase. I don't know where you're making your numbers up from. Do you honestly think for a second people who stay when everything they worked for for 8 years became worthless? Do you have at least half a brain?

Obviously not if you couldn't even take valkrum dunes. You don't even have a clue what you're talking about.

Why do you think the basic structure in XIV correlates exactly to XI? Think.

umm not true........the first merger was a year before the cap increase.

and subs where going before that. if you play the game as long as I did you woulda seen it.
so infact you don't know what you are talking about.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Not only that Reika - but since the game couldn't maintain 500k subscribers, what does that tell you? Everybody I've ever heard of quit that game at the Dunes. Come on, other MMOs have gone on strong and built up subscribers, not FFXI. 500k was early on, like the 2nd or 3rd year of release and it's been downhill ever since WoW came out and actually took out inconveniences to players patch by patch.

this is true having played for from ps2 on amd after year 1 for 12-20 hrs a day. I saw this happen.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Not my point - my point being at one point FFXI had 500K players, this means that's a potential number that might play FFXIV.

it was also a small number that never grew. I much rather have MORE then 500K subs. Means there will be more ppl making partoes and doing content. Meaning i wil have a better chance to do that content.