dev1031 You are losing your main playerbase by making things too easy/fast/casual

[Gracious]

Frankly going out with my ls and killing all the NMs is the most fun I've had in AGES in XIV, and we weren't even really doing it for the drops. Things are moving along and I'm enjoying the game more and more as they do.

Also I love that it feels like I'm skipping over these flame post like they were ads haha.

My linkshell is loving them as well <3 I think it was a good thing.

[Mug]

I just want challenging fights/content to make the game fun, and atm there isn't any challenge IMHO.

This to me, is the very essence of what a game should be about. They need to make the game more exciting to play.

I think the problem right now is that they have yet to finish and release the battle/class overhaul, so they're pretty limited in what they can give us for content at the moment. I think (hope) we'll see some pretty cool things added after that's done and ready.

[Belial]

i was one compalining that it should have been released to them back then. the problem with last patch is the same as this one. it catered to only one group. i do not see where it matters which group is being ignored because it is not right either way. btw you show me where the higher group was given 20 nm's at one time and i will agree.

the point is 20 nm's were released at one time and 0 went to the higher level group. even if it was only 2-5 went for the higher range you would not hear the complaints you hear now. they not only did that, but they have made the high level nm's horribly easy. they were already being lowmanned and now it is even more so since it takes only around 5-6 people to even kill the harder super big nm's now.

You don't really seem to understand that what the development team is doing right now.
First: They are not adding content for you to enjoy, regardless of what PR letter you read from Yoshi, regardless of what forum moderator expressed interest, and regardless of lodestone/fansites/etc. say, they are still not adding this content for you.

This is a broken and incomplete game. They are fixing it. None of the stuff they are adding is to please or offend any of you. 80% of their starting player base is gone. They don't care if they lose anyone currently playing the game. Please understand that.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

bu..bu..but.. you haven't even played it... how could you possibly have any opinion on it? your opinion is LITERALLY based off of what other people have said...

This forum was designed so that only people who are part of the current player base would be able to post... yet you've sneaked through the system....

i own the game and if my pc didn't die launch day. I would be playing it. But I'm as much as the target SE trying to get as the current player base. I know a fun game when I see one. I can't comment on ffxiv currently, but it like other stuff it is just a game. Anyone should be able to play. And I want a fun game also. Amd by fun I mean fun for all players we don't need this whole hardcore vs casual war. It also serves to lower the playerbase. A good portion of ppl stop doing endgame in ffxi due to the "elitism" and the loot drama. We need content that will be fun for everyone. The less ppl who can or willing to do the content, the less ingeneral get to do it.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

This to me, is the very essence of what a game should be about. They need to make the game more exciting to play.

I think the problem right now is that they have yet to finish and release the battle/class overhaul, so they're pretty limited in what they can give us for content at the moment. I think (hope) we'll see some pretty cool things added after that's done and ready.

I don't think that will be an issue SE knows how to make thing challenging... Just as long as this nice challenging content is open for everyone. We shouldn't have any issues bringing in players.

[Zezil]

i think this patch just make rebalance btw party system and NM just for buy sometime for SE to release other Content. i looking forward about grand Comp~ event -3-... hope not stupid just 1 run clear or bored mission.. i need hard core fight like dynamis or bahamut fight...miss something all wipe 23hr lost free i love it lol give me some excite back 'A'r SE

[Kilta_Firelotus]

This game needs content in general. SE isn't making the game for just who is currently playing, they are also making a game to sell and have ppl buy it and play. The more content we have the better. And if all that content is open to more types of players, the better.

Again this hardcore vs casual is getting a bit old. We all bought this game, we all want to have fun. Lets be open to anything devs add. The more open the content is possible the more players will want to buy and play.

Like I said my stance is i'm for anything being added that will bring in the subs.

[CptGrimlock]

I disagree with the op,I played XI for 5 years and to this day its my favorite game of all time(nostalgia)but I must say I believe this game will ultimately surpass it.I cant wait to see where this game is a year from now and expect BIG things from it,until then I will enjoy the ride.

[Cendres]

Casual players get bored and move on? This is inevitable, REALLY? My experience is exactly the opposite, as a casual player I'm always the last to leave a game while my more driven friends have long gone to new MMOs to beat the content there. I've taken a lot longer to get things done and poured money into MMOs for expansions and content I'll get to see the year after it's released.... My dedication has nothing to do with my playstyle, please revise this opinion dear OP.

This game is undergoing a HUGE redirection right now, you cannot reasonably expect everything to fall into place within a few months if you have even a measure of how long gaming development takes. I don't think it's their style to release a huge patch with a lot of content in it, instead we progressively get more stuff in smaller dosages but more often. If you wanted to wait until high level NMs were done, chocobos and companies for example you'd be waiting longer then you are now and guess what you will STILL be complaining that it isn't going fast enough.

Let's be hopeful that things are actually getting done, this game doesn't have a sub for a reason they don't expect to treat you as a paying customer yet or babysit any particular type of player while they are busy getting this game in shape.

[Ostia]

and base from where if I may ask ? as I meet wow player quitting the game at other mmo forum, so w/o solid of info of wow is growing, I wont belive it.

Base on how every single expansion they increase their playerbase by a few millions, thats MILLIONS! And we can all agree that in World of Warcraft the hardcore crowd it's a very very small minority, if tomorrow blizzard woke up, and only had their hardcore crowd as it's only subscription income, they would close doors