Jump No Longer Necessary after Patch 1.17

[Benji]

Jumping is still coming regardless. No stopping the wheels of advancement at this point. If you wanted to make a stand, you're too late.

I agree that jumping in this world is pretty meaningless. One can hope that they will change that a bit so the function won't be useless.

I can hardly see the ability to jump over small rocks, fences etc. being useless. It'll be a nice extra feature and it'll get rid of the feeling of being attached to the ground.


People complaining about the jump feature being added need to get over it. It's there for the people that want it, if you want to jump, jump. If you don't want to use it then there's a simple solution: Don't use it.
And if that doesn't work for you, well I would suggest finding a new game to play.

[Betelgeuzah]

I can hardly see the ability to jump over small rocks, fences etc. being useless. It'll be a nice extra feature and it'll get rid of the feeling of being attached to the ground.

Yes... the amount of rocks and small fences is simply overwhelming.

[Benji]

Yes... the amount of rocks and small fences is simply overwhelming.

I don't understand the point you're trying to make.

[JayvirDeforte]

What I find funny is that the majority of people who want jump either dont have a reason for it or want it for some cosmetic reason. There are very few legitimate reasons for jump. You can walk down ledges already, so you want a jump to do that exact same thing just so you get the illusion that you are "falling"? Pointless much? There aren't even many instances where jumping up a ledge would be useful. Seriously, if at this point you are having problems navigating the land, then I'm fairly certain the lack of a jump button isn't whats causing your problem. Turn off the game and just walk away.

Like others said, the game was NOT DESIGNED with a free jump in mind and will ultimately make the game buggier than hell since people are going to find ways to lodge themselves in areas that weren't meant to be accessed and glitch enemies and so on and so forth. To prevent this, EVERY area would need to be reworked or redone to prevent this sort of activity. Do you realize how much work that equates to just so you can "fall" down a cliff instead of walking or because you can't follow a simple path ? I don't even care about bunny hoppers (even though I've in fact been plagued by them in several MMOs) as much as the technical issues it WILL cause if implemented.

I did forget to mention that all I saw on Jump was "examination" of the feature, not implementation. And even so, it may only be an emote like they were saying. Don't get all high and mighty yet until you see it implemented

[Ava]

What I find funny is that the majority of people who want jump either dont have a reason for it or want it for some cosmetic reason. There are very few legitimate reasons for jump.

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There are also no legitimate reasons not to have jump. It's a quality of life improvement, there's no "reason" for wanting it, just as well there is no reason for not wanting it. It's just something that is nice to have, like fog lamps on your car. You don't need them, but they make life easier, so if you can have them, you should want them.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

jay you never played WoW... or don't know what your talking about..
they can make this world jump friendly and last summer x-play did cover a segment on hidden areas of WoW that jump and other tools allowed access to. This is also what Elder scrolls does all the time, and even in risen. SE can add hidden places jump allows access to and it can serve to hid NMs and such.

WoW none of you ever truely played WoW and explored.

[DNO]

jay you never played WoW... or don't know what your talking about..
they can make this world jump friendly and last summer x-play did cover a segment on hidden areas of WoW that jump and other tools allowed access to. This is also what Elder scrolls does all the time, and even in risen. SE can add hidden places jump allows access to and it can serve to hid NMs and such.

WoW none of you ever truely played WoW and explored.

great post and thats what im saying they can add areas that you can only find with jump. FF11 players are all little boys.

[JayvirDeforte]

jay you never played WoW... or don't know what your talking about..
they can make this world jump friendly and last summer x-play did cover a segment on hidden areas of WoW that jump and other tools allowed access to. This is also what Elder scrolls does all the time, and even in risen. SE can add hidden places jump allows access to and it can serve to hid NMs and such.

WoW none of you ever truely played WoW and explored.

The point I would like to make is that CURRENT areas are not made for it and would require reworking. I'm not saying that future areas could not be designed with it in mind. I know WoW handles it just well but you need to realize that this game is nothing like WoW. Could it be changed? Yes it could. Is it worth it? I can't say for sure. I personally like not having that vertical element.

great post and thats what im saying they can add areas that you can only find with jump. FF11 players are all little boys.

How nice of you to add such a thoughtful and well-thought out post. I really am impressed by your sensible approach to this situation. >_>
And fyi, I played FFXI for a week if that. I joined too late in the life of the game and no one was on my server. Don't lob flames at me when all I'm trying to do is contribute to the conversation.

[Jennestia]

There are also no legitimate reasons not to have jump. It's a quality of life improvement, there's no "reason" for wanting it, just as well there is no reason for not wanting it. It's just something that is nice to have, like fog lamps on your car. You don't need them, but they make life easier, so if you can have them, you should want them.

Reason for not wanting it:

The main reason to use it has been addressed in this patch (scaling/descending certain small ledges and not getting stuck in shrubbery) so it's not fully necessary in this regard
If it's implemented you can't really explore anything new, so this is the "cosmetic" reason people are referring to since no zones are designed where jump will allow you to explore other sections you previously couldn't and making new zones to utilize new features that work universally makes no sense, since even XI's new zones didn't distract heavily from the vanilla or zilart expansion design. New features like pressure plates, yeah, but not radically different design it's like a totally different game.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Reason for not wanting it:

The main reason to use it has been addressed in this patch (scaling/descending certain small ledges and not getting stuck in shrubbery) so it's not fully necessary in this regard
If it's implemented you can't really explore anything new, so this is the "cosmetic" reason people are referring to since no zones are designed where jump will allow you to explore other sections you previously couldn't and making new zones to utilize new features that work universally makes no sense, since even XI's new zones didn't distract heavily from the vanilla or zilart expansion design. New features like pressure plates, yeah, but not radically different design it's like a totally different game.

and you know the game realm can get remade to allow jumping. >.> they plan on remaking a few areas anyway cuz of the "cope and pasting"