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  1. #211
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    I am upset they didnt use my Royal Dodo Hierarchy idea...

    Darn u SE!!!
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    This thread wants longer pop timers, while other threads want people to stop camping.

    Hardcores, get your item and move on.

    Casuals, wait until next week when the hardcores have moved on and get your item.

    In fact, this fast repop timer is brilliant. In time, all players will get what they want.
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  3. #213
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smashington View Post
    This thread wants longer pop timers, while other threads want people to stop camping.

    Hardcores, get your item and move on.

    Casuals, wait until next week when the hardcores have moved on and get your item.

    In fact, this fast repop timer is brilliant. In time, all players will get what they want.
    But that's exactly what the "hardcores" don't want. They don't ever want to see anyone who didn't spend as much or more time as them get anything. They don't want to see anyone but other "hardcores" wearing their "phat lootz" because it makes them feel less special. They want a reason to look down upon anyone they can.
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  4. #214
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    But that's exactly what the "hardcores" don't want. They don't ever want to see anyone who didn't spend as much or more time as them get anything. They don't want to see anyone but other "hardcores" wearing their "phat lootz" because it makes them feel less special. They want a reason to look down upon anyone they can.
    I love how you fabricate these ideas... that is not what these types of players want. We just want a challenging game!! Something fun an exciting! Because right now it is NOT CHALLENGING. If SE doesn't fix this, or at least give us some type of information, these players will leave this game. The only people who will be left are the so called "casuals" who play mmos for 3 months then leave for 5. This game will fail.
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  5. #215
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    Really? Because the threads (mostly from Perfection members) complaining about NMs were solely about respawn timers and drop rates. They even said multiple times that they don't even care about difficulty and challenge at all, that's not even on their list. They just want their items to be rare and they don't want many others to have them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    Really? Because the threads (mostly from Perfection members) complaining about NMs were solely about respawn timers and drop rates. They even said multiple times that they don't even care about difficulty and challenge at all, that's not even on their list. They just want their items to be rare and they don't want many others to have them.
    Of course the 3 minute re-spawn timer is disturbing.. I find it hard to believe that even the 'casuals' find that fun, honestly. No one has a problem with the items, I think they are great low level items, but the fact that no one wants a challenge in getting them is just strange to me. It is a video game, if everything is handed to them on a silver platter then what the heck is the point of even playing!
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  7. #217
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    I can at least agree that the fast spawn rates could be lengthened, that's fine. People want a challenge, the problem is some of them are still just going after these mid-range NMs with 50's or they simply don't have a job in the appropriate range. The fights may be hard at their appropriate range, I'm not sure. Slippery Sykes may be difficult to a party of 8 R20's (it's by the R20 camp), or lower even considering you can pick up R20 leves at R13.
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    What distinguishes an NM is it's supposed to be stronger than other similar monsters of the same rank. I don't think repop time dictates it, but at the same time it's perhaps too short. I do NOT want to see 24hour pops. 8 hour repops at the absolute max.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moth View Post
    Of course the 3 minute re-spawn timer is disturbing.. I find it hard to believe that even the 'casuals' find that fun, honestly. No one has a problem with the items, I think they are great low level items, but the fact that no one wants a challenge in getting them is just strange to me. It is a video game, if everything is handed to them on a silver platter then what the heck is the point of even playing!
    they are not meant to be camped by a bunch of R50, even solo for 1 R50 they are easy. Also the gear is not rare, its decent but not rare and not meant to be camped for weeks. (its untradeable so people don't camp it multiple times for profit) This gear is meant for people of R25-30 or so, they have to form parties and get the gear, its more fun than simply buying in in market wards for sure. If you outrank a nm so far that you cn easily solo it then you should not complain really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    What distinguishes an NM is it's supposed to be stronger than other similar monsters of the same rank. I don't think repop time dictates it, but at the same time it's perhaps too short. I do NOT want to see 24hour pops. 8 hour repops at the absolute max.
    I agree that I certainly don't want to see 24hr pops, but a nice 2-5hr rotating window would be most excellent for the high-end NMs, personally.
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