The only people who have "lost faith" are those crybabies who can't cope with the fact they haven't been invited to alpha.


The only people who have "lost faith" are those crybabies who can't cope with the fact they haven't been invited to alpha.
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Lol I wouldn't doubt it. I'm pretty sure the ones invited into beta wouldn't waste their times in these forums anymore and take their concerns to the alpha forums. Its all the ones "left behind" that are just looking for any reason to console themselves, "it looks terrible anyway, I didn't really want into alpha. I didn't really want in anyway.(sniff sniff, pout)"


they cant cope with changes..
i think thats the more bigger issue for them..
hmm you want to have a new game, but cant cope with changes.
whats wrong about that?


And here we have a textbook example of the classic strawman.
No, it has nothing to do with people who "can't cope with changes".
It has everything to do with - and this is the important bit - people not agreeing with or liking the changes being made.
Let's say, for the sake of analogy, you've been eating apples for the past two years. The crop has begun to go bad, the apples are rotting really quickly and it's decided that they need to be replaced with something better. So, you hand over your remaining stock of apples and eagerly await their replacement.
They hand you a huge sack of bananas.
Let's say you, for the sake of this example, don't like bananas. You don't like their texture, they smell funny and they get those nasty black spots all over them. You express this to the person handing them to you.
In response, the person dismissively says, "Oh, you just can't cope with change".
How much sense would their response make to you? I hope your answer is "absolutely none", because that would be the correct response.
It has nothing to do with "coping with change". All it means that you would have preferred something else you enjoy more, like Oranges or Plums or whatever.
Understand the difference?
People like the idea of the game being changed, ostensibly to improve it. They don't necessarily like all the changes being made.
Attempting to dismiss differing opinions in such a shallow way as you did is lame and intellectually lazy.
Last edited by Preypacer; 12-09-2012 at 12:53 AM.


are afraid of the changes.
and excuse me, sir. how can you tell how these changes are going to be bad, when you havent played it already? no you cant.
its like people cried about a downgrade when it comes to graphic.. which we see now ingame, was a total incorrect flame
Last edited by Tonkra; 12-09-2012 at 12:56 AM.


Oh, I see.. So not only are you ignorantly dismissive... You also presume to know others thoughts and views better than they do. You have no basis for saying this beyond what you spin in that imagination of yours.are afraid of the changes.
and excuse me, sir. how can you tell how these changes are going to be bad, when you havent played it already? no you cant.
it just sounds like the character models graphics downgrade flame.. because people have been afraid ARR being a downgrade concerning that... because they watched 2-3 gameplay trailers.. and what is now? we know they have been totally false..
its like people cried about a downgrade when it comes to graphic.. which we see now ingame, was a total inappropiate "pre-flame"
How can I claim the changes are going to be bad when I haven't had a chance to experience them myself? The same exact way you, or anyone else, can look at those same changes and conclude that they're good. You see what's being shown, you read what's being written and you listen to what's being said, and you base your opinions on that.
Further, you don't know what I or others have or haven't gotten to experience themselves. So again, more presumption and conjecture from you without anything solid to base it on.
And finally, people could still look at the graphics and consider it a downgrade. That would be called subjective opinion. Your opinion to the contrary does not override theirs. So, once again, you're making an assertion on something for which you have absolutely no leg to stand on.
There's not a single thing you've said in either your previous post, or this response that is at all grounded in anything but your own imagination. A word of advice: Stick to what you know. Stop pretending to know what you don't.


O You have no basis for saying this beyond what you spin in that imagination of yours.
There's not a single thing you've said in either your previous post, or this response that is at all grounded in anything but your own imagination. A word of advice: Stick to what you know. Stop pretending to know what you don't.
so and now.. please look into the mirror. maybe you will understand then. thanks a lot.
and btw i bet you also posted in the "character models are a downgrade" thread :P
Last edited by Tonkra; 12-09-2012 at 01:06 AM.
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