[Reminder] Are you ready to cry again? (2° Wave of Alpha invites tomorrow, 3 dec.)

[Zehira]

lmao that .gif

and impossible!

[Tomoken]

and impossible!

It seems us Ridill natives have a pretty decent sense of humor. Das good!

[Spectre]

You're making an assumption. It may or may not mean that.

I'm not the only one. You assume it didn't, I assume it did. Are you waiting for an official post to clarify it?

Incompetence is a big word. It may very well have happened that when they allowed everyone in the game for the dalamud event that also inadvertantly unlocked alpha application. Mistakes happen, and even competent people make them.

You see, one one hand you say it was an honest mistake, but on the other you call it a serious PR blunder. Serious to the point of being company damaging. So the problem right now is ... they arn't admitting to something more? What do they need to say beyond what they have already said? Why is it good enough for the majority of people reading these posts, but not you?

You know there is a saying, "none of us is smarter then all of us." Most of the responses to the aformentioned quote are that of acceptance, yours is really the only torch burning in your camp.

It's not really an assumption. *snip*

you lost me right there... your the one that said :

Even assuming that the opening of the application to inactive accounts has been intentional (and it's a rather big assumption), when you do that kind of thing and change the rules you *need* to communicate it.

Yea... I don't know where you went with that.

Really? I'm not here insulting people or ripping my hair off. I'm offering some criticism in a rather mild way, mind you. Unless you see any kind of criticism as an overreaction.

You have gone way beyond criticism, you are coming across as someone on a witch hunt. You want answers, you want apololgies, you want them to admit fault and promise it will never happen again. Read through your post history, look at the responses. "Mild" does not describe the fevor you have put into defending your stance.

If it was intentional, that should have been announced as soon as the rule was changed. Giving people notice upfront is definitely the less damaging way as opposed to letting them find out by themselves.

You know, I think your whole concern is that they might not see it as a big of a deal as you do, so didn't bother. I can relate to that, but there is a point that you realize that your opinion of situation may not be shared... or even the most accurate.

Now who's exaggerating? No one talked about grevious insults. What SE did is a PR blunder. No one here is feeling insulted. Criticism doesn't imply that.

There are plenty of people that have called it "an insult to paying customers" or similar. Reading your post history on this subject.. while never actually using the word "insult" (I was worried about finding a "slap in the face", which wasn't there either thankfully ), the indignation of having non-active applicants chosen over active applicants is very clear. To your credit, you seem to be calming as time passes though.

And yes, this "cause" is simply a matter of principle for me. My criticism comes regardless of me participating into the alpha or not. You're very free to disbelieve it, of course.

Thanks for the permission. I do harbor a bit of disbelief unfortunatly. Hopefully you will get what you need out of this to get back to your normal activity which I typically enjoy. I'll leave you with my general disagreement on your take of the situation.

[Zehira]

It seems us Ridill natives have a pretty decent sense of humor. Das good!

Hell yeah, Ridill rocks!

[Jacien]

[Faiyez]

Surprise! New wave of invites tomorrow!

https://twitter.com/FF_XIV_EN

Anybody else think it's a mistake?

I thought it was every 2 days.

[Tomoken]

I'm not the only one. You assume it didn't, I assume it did. Are you waiting for an official post to clarify it?



You see, one one hand you say it was an honest mistake, but on the other you call it a serious PR blunder. Serious to the point of being company damaging. So the problem right now is ... they arn't admitting to something more? What do they need to say beyond what they have already said? Why is it good enough for the majority of people reading these posts, but not you?

You know there is a saying, "none of us is smarter then all of us." Most of the responses to the aformentioned quote are that of acceptance, yours is really the only torch burning in your camp.



you lost me right there... your the one that said :



Yea... I don't know where you went with that.



You have gone way beyond criticism, you are coming across as someone on a witch hunt. You want answers, you want apololgies, you want them to admit fault and promise it will never happen again. Read through your post history, look at the responses. "Mild" does not describe the fevor you have put into defending your stance.




You know, I think your whole concern is that they might not see it as a big of a deal as you do, so didn't bother. I can relate to that, but there is a point that you realize that your opinion of situation may not be shared... or even the most accurate.



There are plenty of people that have called it "an insult to paying customers" or similar. Reading your post history on this subject.. while never actually using the word "insult" (I was worried about finding a "slap in the face", which wasn't there either thankfully ), the indignation of having non-active applicants chosen over active applicants is very clear. To your credit, you seem to be calming as time passes though.



Thanks for the permission. I do harbor a bit of disbelief unfortunatly. Hopefully you will get what you need out of this to get back to your normal activity which I typically enjoy. I'll leave you with my general disagreement on your take of the situation.

You kids could use a little bit of Peace of Mind

[DarkkenMoneybags]

Anybody else think it's a mistake?

I thought it was every 2 days.

Honestly, this is a surprise. Maybe they're inviting the rest of applications & increasing the number of invites for NA. Since EU & JP were their main focus with NA at a very low percentage invite rate. I also think another wave will happen Friday 7th as well.

[Abriael]

I'm not the only one. You assume it didn't, I assume it did. Are you waiting for an official post to clarify it?

It would actually be lovely. As always, transparency is great when communicating.

You see, one one hand you say it was an honest mistake, but on the other you call it a serious PR blunder. Serious to the point of being company damaging. So the problem right now is ... they arn't admitting to something more? What do they need to say beyond what they have already said? Why is it good enough for the majority of people reading these posts, but not you?

You know there is a saying, "none of us is smarter then all of us." Most of the responses to the aformentioned quote are that of acceptance, yours is really the only torch burning in your camp.

You seem to have some quite selective reading, and seem to think you speak for the majority, or that the opinion of the majority matches yours. That's a flawed way to reason. Speaking for yourself makes for better conversation.

A mistake is still a blunder (actually, "blunder" and "mistake" are synonyms). I believe I already told you what would be the best thing for them to say if it really was a mistake. And that's "We made a mistake, sorry, we'll do what we can so that it doesn't happen again".

you lost me right there... your the one that said :

Yea... I don't know where you went with that.

I'm not sure what's not clear. When you change the rules, you communicate it, so that people you're changing the rules on know they have been changed. That way they can act consequently and adjust their expectations. It's not that complicated.

Expectation management is a very crucial element of marketing, and when you change the rules, you create a discrepancy between people's expectations and the final result that can only be mended with communication.

You have gone way beyond criticism, you are coming across as someone on a witch hunt. You want answers, you want apololgies, you want them to admit fault and promise it will never happen again. Read through your post history, look at the responses. "Mild" does not describe the fevor you have put into defending your stance.

You may want to go doublecheck "fervor" in the dictionary. My position is firm, but not really dictated by "fervor". Actualy your defense is a lot more filled of "fervor" than whatever I've ever written.

And what you describe is the very definition of "criticism". You're the one interpreting it as some bullish head on attack, which it isn't.

You know, I think your whole concern is that they might not see it as a big of a deal as you do, so didn't bother. I can relate to that, but there is a point that you realize that your opinion of situation may not be shared... or even the most accurate.

Whether my opinion is shared or not, doesn't make it less worthy to be expressed. If they don't think transparent communication with their customers is a critical issue, then the problem is a tad wider than this single example.

There are plenty of people that have called it "an insult to paying customers" or similar. Reading your post history on this subject.. while never actually using the word "insult" (I was worried about finding a "slap in the face", which wasn't there either thankfully ), the indignation of having non-active applicants chosen over active applicants is very clear. To your credit, you seem to be calming as time passes though.

I've always been very calm, and my criticism towards SE's action has always been dictated by logic and actual experience in the field, and I can't really take responsibility for the way others feel like expressing their (IMHO justified) disappointment.

I do find kind of funny how some immediately think that someone that brings some firm and pointed criticism is automatically running to grab the torches and pitchforks.

Square Enix isn't really the worst offender here, mind you. In this whole situation the worst role has been played by those that went out of their way to antagonize those that were disappointed by not being invited into the alpha, as if for some reason being disappointed about something naturally disappointing somehow makes them bad people.

That is indeed something that disgusted me quite a bit, as I find it an extremely distasteful behavior unbecoming of any community. Unfortunately it's pretty common in this kind of situation, but that doesn't make witnessing it less sad.

Thanks for the permission. I do harbor a bit of disbelief unfortunatly

That would be your problem, not mine, wouldn't it?

You kids could use a little bit of Peace of Mind

And you could use finding something actually meaningful to say. I'm sure it would be an educational experience

[Tomoken]

And you could use finding something actually meaningful to say. I'm sure it would be an educational experience