A New Realm with new Threads (Gear Styles that should be around in ARR)

[Sakasa]

I really hated those X-2 Costumes, and I'll hate them here too.. "Bikini = armor" = -_- . (If it wasnt for the vanity system coming i'd just say make them but dont give them lots of armor, it could work.. but the vanity system is coming.. so )

(I didn't find X-2 enjoyable overall compared to X) And lulu wouldn't be that bad if it wasn't for some super magic tape holding her chest in, XD lol.

Well the dress sphere system in general I wasn't really a fan of don't think I even made it to the second chapter of the game but I was just talking about the concept where showing skin can be more conservative with just small additions. Rikku for instance with the skirt Paine iron clad but still with mid drift so they themselves are no more asinine then Tifa's suspenders and hot pants but would not disturb the more sensible personas that were outraged by the coliseum gear. The suspension of disbelieve is required here for things like "bikini protects you from teeth?" though since the thf and or ninja wearing little to nothing is normal in pop culture because of evasion and main character protection.

On the opposite end though with Lulu her design in actuality shows less skin then we see on the red carpet premieres but is designed for you eye to be drawn first to the cleavage then to the right leg.

As for the rest, they look like Miqote versions of an armor that would otherwise look different on the other races.
Except Lulu's of course. I think a Dark Vanya Robe would be able to mimic her look rather nicely, even if not as low cut.

Well I guess that depends on how you view it because the skeletal animation as well as the body measurements for midland F to Miqote are mimics so they would look the same but you would perceive them differently because of facial differences and hairstyles. I assume the Female Roegadyn will match the Female Elezen unless they make a new skeleton to use along with a Female Highlander (IS this still a thing?) It is likely that the Paine's Fohawk for instance will be better represented by Miqote just like a Roegadyn female will fit more like Lulu because of the fierce facial features shown for the concepts.But I am not really aiming at cut and paste costumes/gear but just design styles.

I like the new stuff, though I'd say Rikku would fit right in anyway. Lion pretty much is similar in getup.

IMO I'd say that Eorzea had its own sense of fashion and modesty, and it shouldn't be thrown out with these alternatives. Hopefully the dev team will keep that in mind.

I agree and I hope the design team does follow this but the majority of the gear we will have at launch is from the design system of exchangeable pieces to make gear slightly different with parts re-rendered in certain skins and pelts such as the milita harness for instance. So new gear types are on the rise the bahamut gear concepts are alien compared to 1.0 item and with that in mind there are some clothing trends, weapon designs, and even integrated tech that would ergonomically flow well into 14. That is why I am very selective of the concept arts I post up as I am trying to to portray pieces of ideas not the whole embodiment. Lulu Concept for instance has this gothic sinister look that portrays the black magic vibe but also a very serious and adult which is personified by her actions and speech but her costume does not take away from it. My point in using the design is because while its not a slinky dress or a bra and thong it will still appease the fan service some gear is built around.

[Shougun]

Well the dress sphere system in general I wasn't really a fan of don't think I even made it to the second chapter of the game but I was just talking about the concept where showing skin can be more conservative with just small additions. Rikku for instance with the skirt Paine iron clad but still with mid drift so they themselves are no more asinine then Tifa's suspenders and hot pants but would not disturb the more sensible personas that were outraged by the coliseum gear. The suspension of disbelieve is required here for things like "bikini protects you from teeth?" though since the thf and or ninja wearing little to nothing is normal in pop culture because of evasion and main character protection.

On the opposite end though with Lulu her design in actuality shows less skin then we see on the red carpet premieres but is designed for you eye to be drawn first to the cleavage then to the right leg.

I dont like the 'gotta show my thong' Rikku's costume but I could live with Paine's and Yuna's costumes if "everyone loved it" - though in particular with Yuna I didnt like it "on" Yuna, I always thought it was disappointing because I thought she looked Fan A Plus Tastic in X. My favorite of the X girls, yes over Lulu, and Rikku and then in FFX-2 its like "Hey, I'm the same but SE pimped me out and shredded my clothes".

Also I totally agree - the low cut outfits like Tifa's are totally well fit for the thiefy/monk light weight classes. Perhaps people will call me a prude but I think its unnecessary to do things like cut out the female torso plate armor just so we can see your belly button. Though Tifa shows less skin then the X-2 cast and what we already have in FFXIV and Tifa is often considered the "boom boom"ier girls of the SE bunch. So... wish they could release some 'sexy' classy and leave the coliseum gear to die. (Before people say nu uh, Tifa shows more - Tifa wears a shirt in FF7, and in advent children she is even more protected)

I don't mind skin but.. when 90% of your body is uncovered you should be one shot for thinking that is armor. Even thiefs don't do that..

[Mudd]

wish they could release some 'sexy' classy and leave the coliseum gear to die.

I'm sure you've heard it before, but the coliseum gear, given its theme, is just fine. If not, it should be reduced to just a loincloth.
I doubt we'll see any similar designs in serious armors unless they are also related to the coliseum.

[Shougun]

I'm sure you've heard it before, but the coliseum gear, given its theme, is just fine. If not, it should be reduced to just a loincloth.
I doubt we'll see any similar designs in serious armors unless they are also related to the coliseum.

Related to the theme the gear is incorrect it either should be more naked or more armored.. >.> lol But we can just say they chose an average.

Related to the amount of armor it gives.. diee!!!!

They should make a function: (level) * (material type) * (1/(100*% of skin showing))

No matter the material (generally governed by class) or level of item if you are 90% naked you are 90% naked.

[Felis]

I don't mind skin but.. when 90% of your body is uncovered you should be one shot for thinking that is armor. Even thiefs don't do that..

But ... but ... but what is with dancer?

(Yes, I want the FF Tactic AF for dancer)

[Shougun]

But ... but ... but what is with dancer?

(Yes, I want the FF Tactic AF for dancer)

Evasive maneuvers != armor

:P

IF you get hit, you should be hit like a white mage taru talking to an easy prey in early FFXI.

I would think it adequate to have less heavy / restricting armor to have higher evasive bonuses (or 'glancing').

[Siegtaru]

But ... but ... but what is with dancer?

(Yes, I want the FF Tactic AF for dancer)

Also, to be fair, on armor such as the Colisseum sets (both the whorrior and whoremage sets) had a ridiculously low defense stat, so in essence, the appearance does match the defense, in the sense that you should be getting hit like a truck while wearing that. It may have stats, but of course it does; it's super sexy.

[hrdndv]

I agree and I hope the design team does follow this but the majority of the gear we will have at launch is from the design system of exchangeable pieces to make gear slightly different with parts re-rendered in certain skins and pelts such as the milita harness for instance. So new gear types are on the rise the bahamut gear concepts are alien compared to 1.0 item and with that in mind there are some clothing trends, weapon designs, and even integrated tech that would ergonomically flow well into 14. That is why I am very selective of the concept arts I post up as I am trying to to portray pieces of ideas not the whole embodiment. Lulu Concept for instance has this gothic sinister look that portrays the black magic vibe but also a very serious and adult which is personified by her actions and speech but her costume does not take away from it. My point in using the design is because while its not a slinky dress or a bra and thong it will still appease the fan service some gear is built around.

OK. Eorza is not FFX, or XIII, or XI, but Final Fantasy is still Final Fantasy. FFXIV-ARR needs to reflect the whole tradition - not just make up it's own thing. ARR needs Riku's magic armor. Bikinis certainly can be loaded with magic defense. Appearance in FF has never been mundane. There has always been heavy steel armor right out of the middle ages because that was the concept of a dragon fighter in FFI. But as soon as cutscenes were added, FF became much more fantastic with islands suspended in the sky and minimun sexy clothing because it was FANTASY!!!