Merlwyb, Kan-E, Raubahn, Cid: Dead or Alive?

[Inaaca]

The fact that it's "one time content" has nothing to do with it. It just means that it won't be playable, not that it won't be relevant to ARR's story. The fact that the content isn't playable has really nothing to do with what we're talking about here.

The only part Yoshida talks about when he mentions "scrapping" is the part of the storyline that was in the game at release, IE, most of the characters and organizations that appeared only before the GC storyline won't make a comeback in the new story. He's not talking of what will be playable and what won't.

Reading the original article (and not just a summary) makes it quite clear.

Alright, well regardless that doesn't make anything I said untrue, we just had slightly different definitions of the term "scrapping."

None of the 1.0 missions will be playable, and also the events and lore from the original 1.0 main storyline may be changed to some degree.

[Abriael]

None of the 1.0 missions will be playable

Which doesn't matter in any way to this discussion.

and also the events and lore from the original 1.0 main storyline may be changed to some degree.

He never said this, and it's highly unlikely.

[Soukyuu]

He never said this, and it's highly unlikely.

indirectly, he did. When he says "everything about the original story was changed", it implies the missions were changed too.

[Bowen]

And that pissed me off. I was wanting to see grid burn to a crisp, but instea limsa gets mowed down, so visually

I bet they didn't blow up Gridania on purpose just to mess with everyone that wanted to see it burn.

[Yrusama]

After all those over-aspected clusters we gave the Grand Companies (a Raise item), I'm sure they will have no trouble keeping our leaders alive.

I guess it all depends on the "something" that happens after Louisoix fades to white.

[Abriael]

indirectly, he did. When he says "everything about the original story was changed", it implies the missions were changed too.

he did not say that. He simply said that the original story was set aside after its conclusion, and not revisited or expanded with the GC storyline and further. In fact the Ashcrown Consortium, the Path of the Twelve and what not didn't appear any more. This doesn't mean that that part of the story did not happen.

He didn't mention any actual changes to the original story. Directly or indirectly.

[Soukyuu]

he did not say that. He simply said that the original story was set aside after its conclusion, and not revisited or expanded with the GC storyline and further. In fact the Ashcrown Consortium, the Path of the Twelve and what not didn't appear any more. This doesn't mean that that part of the story did not happen.

He didn't mention any actual changes to the original story. Directly or indirectly.

Yes, he did. Here's the part:

――『旧FFXIV』をプレイしている人からすると、どこまで以前の物語を残すのかが気になります。
--As someone who was playing FFXIV 1.0 [literally: former FFXIV], I'm wondering how much of the original story is left [in ARR]

吉田：『新生FFXIV』のストーリーは、グランドカンパニーの物語がメインになります。そこに『旧FFXIV』のメインストーリーのキャラが絡んできたりする予定です。できるだけ以前の物語は残そうと思いましたが、結局は全部変えました。エッセンスは微妙に残ってはいますが（笑）。
ARR's main story will be the grand company storyline. We plan to make characters from 1.0's storyline appear in that one. We wanted to keep as much of the original story as possible, but in the end we ended up changing everything. The essence is still present though (laugh)

From: Dengeki inteview, full summary linked on the first page of Rein's translation thread.

[Forgo]

If they made it out then they would be changed to show where the hit happen...and they would have some regret where they (and others) failed to stop Bahamut and far as Lousiux I think he died fighting Bahamut after we got sent off to the void.

[Abriael]

Yes, he did. Here's the part:

You're misinterpreting it. He's saying exactly what I say.

ARR's main story is based on the grand company story. They planned to make the characters from the original storyline appear in THAT one (the grand company storyline, that we already saw. With former FFXIV he refers to the Tanaka Story, not to what came after it). What they changed was the plans to include those characters and the plans to continue that storyline that were already in place when Yoshida joined, not the story itself that had already happened in the game.

There isn't a single element in the grand company storyline that conflicts with the already published part of the story of 1.0, in fact the essence of the story of 1.0 has been preserved, and nothing has been actually retconned. Most of its characters simply don't appear anymore and the plans that Tanaka team had for expansion were never applied.

[Inaaca]

ARR's main story is based on the grand company story.

What they changed was the plans to include those characters and the plans to continue that storyline that were already in place when Yoshida joined, not the story itself that had already happened in the game.

There isn't a single element in the grand company storyline that conflicts with the already published part of the story of 1.0, in fact the essence of the story of 1.0 has been preserved, and nothing has been actually retconned. Most of its characters simply don't appear anymore and the plans that Tanaka team had for expansion were never applied.

This was my position from the start. You keep arguing semantics.

The 1.0 missions and Tanaka's story aren't getting used in ARR (other than the core essence) and there will be a new story in place in 2.0. Yes, all the 1.0 missions happened historically, but the mission content has been scrapped and isn't getting used again in ARR.