Yoshi suggests playing WOW for a year

[Ralos]

Nice try, but I've played FF11 for about 10 times longer than I have played WoW, and I still play it too.

I <3 FFXI
It's old now and Abyssea has kind of made it ridiculous, but it's still a great and fun game.

[Valmonte]

No matter how many are actually active, they are active more than what FFXI active is. Therefore your argument is invalid. All your buds =/= 9 million people.

you don't know how many subs WoW has, therefor your counter argument is invalid.

WoW may have been revolutionary, FFXI didn't get to do standardized the market. Therefor WoW > FFXI in terms of Business. What FFXIV is doing is making another revolutionary via inspiration of many MMOs including both FFXI and WoW.

no we generally call that a patchwork doll of game concepts(and those usually tank hard), WoW was successful do to timing (breaking the 2D era) and originality.

I'm more than looking forward on how FFXIV will revolutionarize the MMO market industry than rather hearing people talking backwards about how bad is that other MMO that actually make more millions money than FFXI currently does.

yeah, you probably wont even be around when it flops as you would have just moved on to the new latest in greatest in inspirational achievements.

[Valmonte]

Nice try, but I've played FF11 for about 10 times longer than I have played WoW, and I still play it too.

good for you. want a cookie? i was punning you for your opinion on what you would call "right". WoW didn't start getting anything right until its second expansion.

your actual status as a player for either game, doesn't concern me.

[Seirra_Lanzce]

you don't know how many subs WoW has, therefor your counter argument is invalid.

You dont know how many subs WoW has either, therefor your re-counter-argument is invalid. So you are denying that WoW has 9 million subscribers? even if i'm wrong, i can say is above 9 million subscribers, i don't know why you say i do not know.

no we generally call that a patchwork doll of game concepts(and those usually tank hard), WoW was successful do to timing (breaking the 2D era) and originality.

WoW is much more accessible then FFXI. It is indeed due to timing and originality, but mind you that it has come a long way far more reaching out then FFXI ever was, not to say FFXI is bad, there is many FFXI good point, but not entirely all that bad either for WoW too. Nevertheless WoW still is, the most popular MMO ever.

yeah, you probably wont even be around when it flops as you would have just moved on to the new latest in greatest in inspirational achievements.

Who say i wont? i've been sticking with WoW, RO, Tera, GW2, Dota2, and many MMOs and still play em'

[Valmonte]

You dont know how many subs WoW has either, therefor your re-counter-argument is invalid. So you are denying that WoW has 9 million subscribers? even if i'm wrong, i can say is above 9 million subscribers, i don't know why you say i do not know.

neither one of us can make an argument on this point, neither one of us has proper information

Who say i wont? i've been sticking with WoW, RO, Tera, GW2, Dota2, and many MMOs and still play em

who says you will? looks like you've got quite a full plate of MMO there. sure you have time for leftovers of all those games?

[Ralos]

I feel like you all are arguing now just for the sake of arguing....

[Valmonte]

I feel like you all are arguing now just for the sake of arguing....

pretty much.

[Seirra_Lanzce]

neither one of us can make an argument on this point, neither one of us has proper information

Welp, the source of 9 million subs came from news it self, therefor it is legit. (Reuters, BBC, etc news) as WoW is also involving in the Financial news.

who says you will? looks like you've got quite a full plate of MMO there. sure you have time for leftovers of all those games?

Yeap, is not that i can't play them all, i play them according to my scedhule, like how those MMO gamers journalism does.

I feel like you all are arguing now just for the sake of arguing....

Debates are always like that no?

[Zehira]

I think the reason why WOW > FFXI was because SE didn't listen to their fanbase and 95% of time SE made whatever they want and not to make what players want and need (thanks to PS2's limitation.) Now, Yoshi-P is the only one in SE can listen to us so I am sure FFXIV will do fine. ^^

Just mind you, SE still have a lot of haters out there anywhere in the world to make the company look bad.

[Vilhem]

I think the reason why WOW > FFXI was because SE didn't listen to their fanbase and 95% of time SE made whatever they want and not to make what players want and need (thanks to PS2's limitation.) Now, Yoshi-P is the only one in SE can listen to us so I am sure FFXIV will do fine. ^^

Just mind you, SE still have a lot of haters out there anywhere in the world to make the company look bad.

I have to agree. I spent 9 years on XI, and a majority of those years we were pretty much cut off from any sort of involvement with the devs. It was frustrating to go to the FanFests just to have Sage Sundi repeat the same "I don't know" "We'll look into it" responses, then wonder if it ever got past him or whatnot.

With Yoshi-P we have it soooooo good. I think he spoils us a bit even XI has since gotten its own official forums, and there is some dev feedback, but still nowhere on the level we have with Yoshi-P. Heck I even remember a few years back, the subject of having official XI forums came up, and Tanaka's response was "It would be difficult to implement forums because we would have to moderate in different languages". Yet as soon as he was gone, o snap, we gots forums!

I also see why Yoshi-P says "go play WoW for a year". It's more of an example than a strict order to play WoW though lol. His basis for saying that I also agree with. Nobody creates something that is 100% original. We are always influenced by someone and/or their work. Music inspires, art inspires, anything that activates your senses can be an inspiration for a created work. This is what Yoshi means when he says "go play WoW". =)