Why not abolish the Class system entirely in favor of Jobs? [@ Devs]

[GodseijuroHiko]

This isn't your game, this isn't my game. This isn't our game. This is Square Enix's game. Is it built for us? Yes, but we do not own it. There will be design decisions people will disagree with, but will not change. And if they disagree with it venomously enough, it becomes a determent to the community to hear them sit and scream endlessly about it. And if it is a game-breaker for you, it is best that you leave instead of remaining to gripe. It is better for the plaintive, as it quickens the time they'll actually find a game that suits them, and it is better for those who don't need to hear the complaints causing unneeded tension in the forums.

Interesting straw-man, turning what he said into literal ownership. Yes, that's exactly what he was talking about... Anyway, the same can be said about the people who feel tense due to people's complaining. We all know people sometimes complain needlessly correct? Why not just tell them to just avoid the forums?

You should probably take this time to bow out due to lack of headway. People will continue to state their opinions.

"This isn't your FORUM, this isn't my FORUM. This isn't our FORUM. This is Square Enix's FORUM. Is it built for us? Yes, but we do not own it. There will be OPINIONS people will disagree with, but will not change. And if they(YOU) disagree with it venomously enough, it becomes a determent to the community to hear them sit and scream endlessly about it. And if it is a INTERNET-breaker for you, it is best that you leave instead of remaining to gripe. It is better for the plaintiff, as it quickens the time they'll actually find a THREAD that suits them, and it is better for those who don't need to hear the complaints causing unneeded tension in the THREAD."

I must admit, I felt some sort of childish satisfaction using your quote for my own needs. It didn't sound any less silly when I said it however, it probably sounded worse...

You really should give it up. People share differing opinions. Get used to it. If you are unable respond without twisting their words or attacking them, mentally demonize them and enjoy your day.

Anyway, everything you proceeded to suggest had already been suggested by others before. We've long since accepted that classes are here to stay. People still feel the way they feel and should be allowed to state why. The handful of people who've been posting here pretty much all agree that an overhaul is needed and we are awaiting more information. For now, we're sharing our thoughts on the topic.

2 jobs per class wont work currently with the information we have. 1:1 seems like the best fit for the time being unless various weapon types alter abilities and traits. Since MMO's battle system is important this topic excites me as well as others.

I think expecting massive changes this late in the game is pretty pointless but is still exciting to talk about, at least for me (love what if conversations).

However there have been some more minor suggestions in here that I think are worth a look. Of course Yoshida may already have them implemented (or way better ones) - really want some ARR news on the battle system >,>