Tanaka or Yoshi?

[Nuru]

And let's remember that Naoki still isn't a game designer on XIV Tanaka however is. So basically all the new systems are still designed mostly by him and not N.Yoshida. I can tell that none of the videogame projects I've been involved with has had a producer that had any say in the gameplay mechanics. Yet people seem to assume that he's almost single handedly designing all the new stuff being added to XIV (maybe someday just wait a little longer etc.)

Maybe not completely, but in the reality of things, Tanaka wouldn't be able to designing most of these new systems even if he wanted to (Due to him being replaced by Yoshi_P). He could, however, help suggest and throw in some of the visions he has for FFXIV, especially with his original plans. Ex. Companies

In my opinion, if you don't like what has been implemented, you guys have nobody to blame but yourselves. Also, why fuss? If you make it a point that you don't like it, and enough players support your idea, most likely it will grab Yoshi_P's attention and he will do what it takes to fix the problem.

[Seif]

Maybe not completely, but in the reality of things, Tanaka wouldn't be able to designing most of these new systems even if he wanted to (Due to him being replaced by Yoshi_P). He could, however, help suggest and throw in some of the visions he has for FFXIV, especially with his original plans. Ex. Companies

In my opinion, if you don't like what has been implemented, you guys have nobody to blame but yourselves. Also, why fuss? If you make it a point that you don't like it, and enough players support your idea, most likely it will grab Yoshi_P's attention and he will do what it takes to fix the problem.

Btw I never said I do or don't like it. i don't know if you were referring to me or people in general. But at this point I don't think there a lot of arguments for or against either producer. Clearly Tanaka didn't meet the release deadline with an enjoyable game and most of Naoki Yoshida's plans are at this point just pipe dreams.

I'll comment on the changes when I see them but what has been promised for over 6 months admittedly sounds promising =)

[Nuru]

No i wasn't directing anything towards you, i was just adressing what is going on around here and what people need to realize.

[gifthorse]

So anyway.

The original vision (presented to us on www.finalfantasyxiv.com for example) was something many of us were pining for. But even at release, the game was a far cry from that. Yoshi, instead of trying to realise the dream however, seems to be on a collision course with WoW/FFXI and is deviating from the original vision many of us wanted, and still want.

I heard it said today during leves by one crafter that if Yoshi continued to marginalise the crafting system he would leave. Another mentioned that the back-peddling of Player Companies and Company Housing/Ships in favour of this new "Grand Companies of Eorzea" concept was again something they didn't want.

There are so many Linkshells who left, vowing to come back when Player Companies, housing and ships were implemented, and now there is not even a hint of those things being in the game any time soon, even before PS3 release.

And whatever happened to the UI overhaul we were meant to receive in february?

I feel like devoting months and months to redeveloping the combat system, which in effect is tantamount to regurgitating the combat system of FFXI/WoW by the sounds of things, has been a failure by the new development team. I would rather have seen improvements to the existing combat (more fluidity, diversity, roles, more emphasis on positioning, and a realisation of the combat system we were promised on www.finalfantasyxiv.com) than what we have been promised by Yoshi and his team (auto-attack, whoopty-doo).

It's not that the development team aren't working or producing content for us which is disheartening, what's dishearting is the overall direction of the game ever since Yoshi was appointed lead. And although Tanaka's team failed to deliver, I wanted what they had to offer on the horizon. I don't want what Yoshi offers. He's not bringing FFXIV to its full potential.

[Spellbinder]

If I recall, didnt the majority vote for radical changes on the first player poll? I guess this what happens when people get what they ask for.

[Visch]

If I recall, didnt the majority vote for radical changes on the first player poll? I guess this what happens when people get what they ask for.

This is what happens when people listen to those who spend more time taking polls and posing on forums than playing the game.

[Munba]

Do you prefer something concrete but different from what you expected or something that will remain in the dreams forever? I think the original vision will be modified in part as well but the basis wil remain. The original fault has to be repaired in some way. If this way will be good, only time will tell us. For now, i see the right path.. on paper.

About Companies i really don't think they dropped the original vision of it. Yoshi said in a recent interview, they have to consolidate the basis of Companies before to introduce something like player-ship and stuff.

[gifthorse]

Do you prefer something concrete but different from what you expected or something that will remain in the dreams forever? I think the original vision will be modified in part as well but the basis wil remain. The original fault has to be repaired in some way. If this way will be good, only time will tell us. For now, i see the right path.. on paper.

About Companies i really don't think they dropped the original vision of it. Yoshi said in a recent interview, they have to consolidate the basis of Companies before to introduce something like player-ship and stuff.

In the case of recent NPC quests, I would actually rather just have nothing. To be honest, they seem to make the game worse for being implemented, rather than better. Their poor quality sends bad signals. But, generally speaking, yes, I would rather having something concrete than have nothing more than a dream.

However, that being said, having a dream is still important for informing and shaping the content the developers create. And if the dream is bad, so is the content. This is relevant because - contrary to popular belief - I see Yoshi deviating from the vision of the original developers and treading down a path from where there is no hope of salvation.

Yoshi said himself that to him games are like themeparks; you give players a bunch of things to do to occupy themselves; and that's where the fun lies. But the original vision seemed to have a larger scope than just a themepark. The original plan seemed to envision a place where players helped stimulate themselves (thriving crafting economy, player-driven companies and ships), as opposed to just passively digesting the forgettable drivel the developers presented them with.

[Frebaut]

YOSHI FTW

[Zozor]

While I like Tanaka, I think I prefer Yoshi-p. It's clear that the lines of communication are now open. We're getting promised things which are then delivered in updates on time. Japan gets hit with an Earthquate, Yoshi-p gets sick and we still get a great update.

I also like the direction the game is headed right now. Although I would have liked to have seen Tanaka overhaul the game I'm not convinced that he would have made the dramatic changes that Yoshi-p is proposing. All of the changes lined up are things I'm definitely looking forward to.

Yoshi-p all the way.