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  1. #271
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    Quote Originally Posted by neorei View Post
    300 for a tablet and a gaming system? that's a steal. pre ordering mines tommorrow


    Tri Core, 3 GHz PowerPC-based 45nm CPU, very similar to the Xbox 360 chip. The CPU features 2 MB cache, 1 MB for Core 0, and 512 KB for cores 1 and 2
    1.5 GB of unknown memory, to be shared between the CPU and the GPU
    Custom 40nm AMD GPU with 32 MB embedded eDRAM and unified shader architecture
    25 GB Blu-ray based disc
    8 GB internal flash memory
    Custom, Nintendo-made Wii U operating system that runs on a separate, ARM-based processor.
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    512 MB separate on-board flash storage for the OS only

    is the specs btw
    Looks like they are smarter than Microsoft with just this lol.

    I can see it being possible if they up the storage space, but 32gb is the current top for Wii U. And it depends on if Wii U can actually install game data too, or else you would need a 50gb Blu-ray disc and have everything constantly being loaded from it, which wouldnt be good.
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    Last edited by Reika; 11-27-2012 at 12:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    Looks like they are smarter than Microsoft with just this lol.

    I can see it being possible if they up the storage space, but 32gb is the current top for Wii U. And it depends on if Wii U can actually install game data too, or else you would need a 50gb Blu-ray disc and have everything constantly being loaded from it, which wouldnt be good.
    you dont need more space on the wiiU itself, just a storage device with enough space. It just depends if you can install it or not.
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  3. #273
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    If they never put my PC game on another console again, it would still be too soon. Consoles are subpar machines compared to PC's and if you have to cater to the low end of specs all the time, it seriously brings the game down as a whole. Sure they got sliders and can scale etc, but they still have to make content that can run on a console. Eventually it will hold the game back, and we will be hearing about PS3 limitations all over again. I petition to dump the PS3.

    Just because the WiiU has better specs than the current Gen consoles, 2gig of ram is pretty pathetic especially for a NEXTGEN console... My pc has 8gig of ram for $40, ANYONE can get that much for a pc lol. PCs can be upgraded as time goes on- 'Oh I need more ram.' 'New video card!' Consoles are stuck the same specs from day1 and that means the game can never be upgraded past a certain point.

    Even the next gen ps4 or w/e won't be as good as my PC is now, so really it's just stupid to make games for them. I just think games that are PC only are way better, and can go a lot farther. Consoles are for the 'CoD Nation of Noobs' and they need to stay there. They even put PC and Console players on different servers for that game cause they know PC users have a huge advantage...

    TLDR: NO, GOD NO, NO, NOOOOOOOOOOO- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31g0YE61PLQ -ty Mr. Scott, I couldn't of said it better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reefo View Post
    If they never put my PC game on another console again, it would still be too soon. Consoles are subpar machines compared to PC's and if you have to cater to the low end of specs all the time, it seriously brings the game down as a whole. Sure they got sliders and can scale etc, but they still have to make content that can run on a console. Eventually it will hold the game back, and we will be hearing about PS3 limitations all over again. I petition to dump the PS3.

    Just because the WiiU has better specs than the current Gen consoles, 2gig of ram is pretty pathetic especially for a NEXTGEN console... My pc has 8gig of ram for $40, ANYONE can get that much for a pc lol. PCs can be upgraded as time goes on- 'Oh I need more ram.' 'New video card!' Consoles are stuck the same specs from day1 and that means the game can never be upgraded past a certain point.

    Even the next gen ps4 or w/e won't be as good as my PC is now, so really it's just stupid to make games for them. I just think games that are PC only are way better, and can go a lot farther. Consoles are for the 'CoD Nation of Noobs' and they need to stay there. They even put PC and Console players on different servers for that game cause they know PC users have a huge advantage...

    TLDR: NO, GOD NO, NO, NOOOOOOOOOOO- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31g0YE61PLQ -ty Mr. Scott, I couldn't of said it better.
    TL : DR too much blah blah
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  5. #275
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    Quote Originally Posted by GinTama View Post
    TL : DR too much blah blah
    TLDR Too much stupid
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    Quote Originally Posted by reefo View Post
    If they never put my PC game on another console again, it would still be too soon. Consoles are subpar machines compared to PC's and if you have to cater to the low end of specs all the time, it seriously brings the game down as a whole. Sure they got sliders and can scale etc, but they still have to make content that can run on a console. Eventually it will hold the game back, and we will be hearing about PS3 limitations all over again. I petition to dump the PS3.

    Just because the WiiU has better specs than the current Gen consoles, 2gig of ram is pretty pathetic especially for a NEXTGEN console... My pc has 8gig of ram for $40, ANYONE can get that much for a pc lol. PCs can be upgraded as time goes on- 'Oh I need more ram.' 'New video card!' Consoles are stuck the same specs from day1 and that means the game can never be upgraded past a certain point.

    Even the next gen ps4 or w/e won't be as good as my PC is now, so really it's just stupid to make games for them. I just think games that are PC only are way better, and can go a lot farther. Consoles are for the 'CoD Nation of Noobs' and they need to stay there. They even put PC and Console players on different servers for that game cause they know PC users have a huge advantage...

    TLDR: NO, GOD NO, NO, NOOOOOOOOOOO- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31g0YE61PLQ -ty Mr. Scott, I couldn't of said it better.
    pc don't have mario or zelda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neorei View Post
    pc don't have mario or zelda.
    My friend's PC runs Smash Brothers Brawl and it looks better on the PC than the Wii, also runs perfectly. >_>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuru View Post
    My friend's PC runs Smash Brothers Brawl and it looks better on the PC than the Wii, also runs perfectly. >_>
    yes and its illegal if he does not own the copy, and do you know how long it took dolphin to run wii games without issues?
    so no pc does not have mario or zelda
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    PCs and consoles/mobiles all have their place. When you specifically design your machine for a given purpose, you can do unique and unconventional things with it that aren't (typically) done in the PC world. A lot of people also don't want to deal with the hassles of making sure that their system meets the hardware requirements for all the games they want to play, etc. The PC platform is in general superior, but consoles offer a lot of convenience that makes them more accessible. It is typically the business policies and practices of the console maker that have a greater impact on how wortwhile it is. A lot of former XBLA developers have moved to the PC (using Steam) because they don't have to deal with micrsoft dragging their feet at approving patches, nor do they have to pay $10,000 just to release a patch to fix a bug. Console makers need to loosen up a bit in this area to keep their customer base in the long term.

    Just because the WiiU has better specs than the current Gen consoles, 2gig of ram is pretty pathetic especially for a NEXTGEN console... My pc has 8gig of ram for $40, ANYONE can get that much for a pc lol.
    While the wii/360/ps3 generation really didn't have as much memory as it should have, consoles do not need as much memory as PCs do because they don't have the same level of operating system and background software running- The system software is stripped of lots of unnecessary data that would come with operating system software like Windows and OSX to support widely varying hardware configurations- Since the hardware of a console is mostly constant, you don't need to have all that extraneous stuff to be prepared for any contingency. Also, $40 can easily impact the number of people who will buy the console. I probably wouldn't have bought the Wii U (at least not right away) if it was $400 instead of $350.
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    Not to rag on the Wii U, but anyone really saying that the Wii U, PS3, or any console for that matter would eventually be a bottleneck for FFXIV or any other game out there is fooling themselves. In terms of control interface, you just can't have the same level of control with a gamepad that you can with a keyboard/mouse unless the devs allow for it on a console port of a game(why they never do I'll never know). Plus, you can use any number of interface devices on a PC if that's your fancy.

    Of course there's also the simple matter of processing power. Sure you can say that a game console might use its code and RAM more effectively than a PC simply due to a lack of an OS and other things, but that won't matter for shit if I can build a quad-core machine with 8 gigs of RAM with a current mid-range to high-end graphics card. Then of course there's the ability to upgrade down the line. Worried about having to be glued to a monitor? You don't have to be. Just hook it up to your TV in the living room or wherever. The sky's the limit.

    Consoles are fine and have their strengths(mostly just the exclusive software), but to ever doubt that they hinder anything or that PCs are lesser for whatever reason is quite an ignorant statement indeed, and seriously, building PCs is pretty damned easy nowadays compared to when I started. It's literally just like playing with LEGO.
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