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  1. #181
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    There is already a subscription plan in place for new member and old. Making the game f2p would send signs of no confidence in the games future, and undo all of Yoshida's efforts.

    Free to play is used on games that were either made to BE free, or P2P games which failed and the only way the company could keep their shareholders/investors happy was if they increased the amount of possible income. Its also used when the population drops so low that the Pay to play players can't do any content from lack of people, so they raise it so subscribers can do content. (which may have been the real case behind SWTOR going F2P since its population dropped so much)

    I gladly paid for 1.0 because to me it was more enjoyable than FFXI has been since it turned into a mindless gear farm with abyssea and voidwatch. It was worth it and 2.0 seems much better and I'm a critic of almost everything. Lol

    No F2P game is really free to play, you DO have to pay for almost everything you do and want and if often costs more than the game itself did.

    SE could easily make money off an in-game store though, Specially if they added a cosmetic gear shop, offered paid race changes, appearance changes, name changes... there is a LOT they could do that F2P games do and still turn a bigger profit.

    Pay to play is much better, both in concept and value. Eventually those F2P people run out of things to buy, or just stop paying for the extra stuff. Pay to play on long-time subscribers will help SE profit more.
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  2. #182
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kewitt View Post
    I would quit if it went Free to Play.

    no free to play MMO has held my interest for more then about 1 months.

    If you want free to play... go play one of the 100 free to play games if you want a quality game pay to play is the way to go.

    DnD was the only free to play game model I ever liked.
    oo wait it had free to play very limits. Pay to play full content.
    Agreed. A game going free to play is a sign the developer no longer wants to try to make top-notch content
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  3. #183
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    this game needs the opposite of f2p, it needs to pump out as much content as it can patch by patch and keep us paying our subs. i want to see this game succeed like ffxi, i want expansion after expansion of content. i would love to finally get another mmo that i can play for 5years b4 starting to be bored. and lets not kid ourselves if the content kept coming out just as quickly i would of never got bored or left. (abysea not included i would of left just cause of that expansion either way lol)

    long term progression all the way and i'll pay for long time.
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  4. #184
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    If FFXI lasted 10yrs with p2p i doubt the same company will do this game as f2p and thank goodness for that.
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  5. #185
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    I prefer to pay a subscription fee to support SE to continuously work on the game for updates and expansions for longer term and more enjoyable contents.
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  6. #186
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xikeroth View Post
    Free to play is a complete rippoff in the first 2 years of playing. You have to pay for so damn much its insane. That and the amount of content you can do per week in some of the games is limited.

    In LOTRO you have to pay literally as much as you would pay for 7-8 months of subscription fees JUST to reach level 50. After that you pay MORE. Its more worth it to just pay the subscription fee.

    Free to play is stupid imo... Most of those games went with their current model because of quick profits off of content that gets released every 6-8 months.

    They cap how much you can hold and make you pay real-world money for everything

    Lets face it, pay to play is a way better value for the casual gamer as well as hardcore. No spending $10-20 for content every time you reach it.
    Quote Originally Posted by strallaalaa View Post
    this game needs the opposite of f2p, it needs to pump out as much content as it can patch by patch and keep us paying our subs. i want to see this game succeed like ffxi, i want expansion after expansion of content. i would love to finally get another mmo that i can play for 5years b4 starting to be bored. and lets not kid ourselves if the content kept coming out just as quickly i would of never got bored or left. (abysea not included i would of left just cause of that expansion either way lol)

    long term progression all the way and i'll pay for long time.
    Quote Originally Posted by odintius View Post
    If FFXI lasted 10yrs with p2p i doubt the same company will do this game as f2p and thank goodness for that.
    Quote Originally Posted by TarusHanzu View Post
    I prefer to pay a subscription fee to support SE to continuously work on the game for updates and expansions for longer term and more enjoyable contents.
    ^^What they said.
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  7. #187
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    Why thank you /bow :P
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  8. #188
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    GOD no way im sorry but mostly FF fan will like P2P because u get better shit that way then F2P and plus if you want sooo badly F2P just go play those game and dont come here crying about it i want a game that will continue progressing in the long term and not a game that rarely do patch or expansions because is F2P no again NO THANK YOU!!!
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  9. #189
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    Quote Originally Posted by strallaalaa View Post
    this game needs the opposite of f2p, it needs to pump out as much content as it can patch by patch and keep us paying our subs. i want to see this game succeed like ffxi, i want expansion after expansion of content. i would love to finally get another mmo that i can play for 5years b4 starting to be bored. and lets not kid ourselves if the content kept coming out just as quickly i would of never got bored or left. (abysea not included i would of left just cause of that expansion either way lol)

    long term progression all the way and i'll pay for long time.
    So long as they don't pull that abyssea/voidwatch/revamp old endgame crap i'll stick around.
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  10. #190
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    Lets all not forget one very important thing... F2P games don't ALWAYS get more profit, its a gamble. P2P option ensures they will get monthly fee so long as no one cancels... F2P doesn't mean anyone will buy anything at all. A lot of F2P people only buy stuff once in a while.
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