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    While I certainly wouldn't mind new races added to FF14, I can't say the Bangaa would be my first choice.

    As far as the use of developmental resource, I think there another angle to look at, as FF11/14 is a bit different than most other MMOs in this regard. To be specific, in 11/14 our characters are not limited to a single class/job, so most player's in-game progression tends to be focused on a single main character, as opposed to multiple characters with different classes like in other MMOs.

    This has a direct impact on the utilization of additional playable race added down the road, while they are great for new players, they are likely to see considerably less use amongst the established player base. While it certainly doesn't mean that no new races should be added, it does change the value proposition a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fusional View Post
    not trollish whatsoever. realistic.
    So you do feel you speak for everyone, then. Got it.

    Quote Originally Posted by fusional View Post
    galka and roegadyn are considered rare by race standards in FF MMOs. why? easy.

    they aren't
    pretty
    to look at

    dig?
    Yet people (far more than "4") still play Roegadynn. Dig?

    Quote Originally Posted by fusional View Post
    yeah, some western folks like ugly character models. and the MMOs primarily targeting western audiences usually have the requisite ugly race/s. even then they're uncommon at best, because the human-types and elf-types and midget-types will always see the bulk of use.

    so you want an ugly race in a game that is clearly not a western MMO? sure they want XIV to appeal to western gamers, but look at the MASSIVE rift between your WoW crowd and your FF crowd. each hates the other game/type with a pretty intense passion. no matter how you slice it, games have target markets and the target market of FF isn't the western ugly-beasty-humanoid crowd.
    Quick.. Better tell Yoshi he's not making a Western MMO and a more "beastly" race just wouldn't work... because Fusional says so, and they speak for everyone. Clearly.

    • Reason why he is torn between Viera and something more brute-ish like a reptile is because Viera are too close to humans and he wanted to introduce something more beast-like. Also, Viera has only appeared as female so far... and he doesn't want to have a gender-locked race... [read: do you seriously want to see bunnyGUYS?!]
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    Quote Originally Posted by fusional View Post
    would some people still like it? obviously. would some people still choose one? obviously. should it possibly be an option at some point in the future? sure. but proportionally it will be 5% of the population or less. and for the people who desperately want to be the beautiful unique snowflake... fantastic. but in the end that's just wasting development dollars that could be better spent *now*
    You're just spewing off conjecture here, fusional. Do you have something you can back up with actual stats, and not just random numbers you pulled out of the blue because "hey, they sound good to me"?

    If you don't like the idea, fine. Say "I don't like the idea and here are my personal reasons why". That is a valid response. Attempting to speak for the majority and pulling "statistics" out of thin air is not basis for meaningful discussion, because you have no way of knowing or backing up your claims.

    So, again, if you'd like to discuss the idea/suggestion on its own merits, or perhaps put forth your own idea for a new race, by all means. If you're going to sit here and play "statistical soothsayer", then I'd prefer you did it in another thread. 'kay? Thanks.
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    Last edited by Preypacer; 11-26-2012 at 01:06 AM. Reason: corrected a term

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    I think they could solve the Viera thing pretty quick if they would just add bunny ears and a fluffy tail option to miqotes before the launch of ARR. That would please the fans and they wouldn't need to make an entirely different race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aenarion View Post
    While I certainly wouldn't mind new races added to FF14, I can't say the Bangaa would be my first choice.

    As far as the use of developmental resource, I think there another angle to look at, as FF11/14 is a bit different than most other MMOs in this regard. To be specific, in 11/14 our characters are not limited to a single class/job, so most player's in-game progression tends to be focused on a single main character, as opposed to multiple characters with different classes like in other MMOs.

    This has a direct impact on the utilization of additional playable race added down the road, while they are great for new players, they are likely to see considerably less use amongst the established player base. While it certainly doesn't mean that no new races should be added, it does change the value proposition a bit.
    Good points. Though, it's clear that they intend to introduce a new playable race and, to date, Yoshi-P's indicated a toss-up between something Viera-like which seems to be the favored option among "overseas players" (as he put it), or a more beast-like, reptilian race, which is more his preference.

    Unless they completely change their mind and don't introduce anything at all, we're going to get a new race. So, I started the thread just to say "okay, well, what might be some options? Here's my suggestion"

    I happen to think Bangaa, or something similar to them, would add a nice variety to the playable races, and would bring a nice new element to the game overall.

    Who knows? A completely new and unique 3rd option might come out of it...
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    I think ARR and/or the first expansion would be the best time to add new races, after that I think it starts to get a bit iffy.

    As for possible races... nothing really comes to mind tbh... maybe the Dravanians? >_>;;;
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aenarion View Post
    I think ARR and/or the first expansion would be the best time to add new races, after that I think it starts to get a bit iffy.

    As for possible races... nothing really comes to mind tbh.
    Yeah, they've already said a new race wouldn't come until a new expansion was released - which will be a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hart View Post
    I think they could solve the Viera thing pretty quick if they would just add bunny ears and a fluffy tail option to miqotes before the launch of ARR. That would please the fans and they wouldn't need to make an entirely different race.
    Hell.. just make them vanity slot items :-p
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    Less is more, I'd rather see more build diversity within the existing options. I'd also like as few reasons for the developers to tell us how long it takes to make new sets of gear because of all the races they need to model items onto.
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    Goblin Lalafell Halfbreeds everybody.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Preypacer View Post
    Hell.. just make them vanity slot items :-p
    A Halloween event item, no one ever dresses up in scary stuff anyway. Sexy bunny costumes for everyone!

    It would be like the reindeer suits all over again...

    (Bah, just reminded myself of the possibility of reindeers running all over the place with the introduction of vanity slots.)
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