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  1. #11
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    Aenarion has great insight!

    I SIGN THIS PETITION


    He's worried about this

    Aiming for 5000 players per server, 1000 players in one zone lagless
    Two approaches to zone congestion


    Display a message "too many players in zone, entry denied"
    Spawn instances of a zone to allow for more players

    Translation from an interview

    To which was also said


    still testing which one to take, as 1000 players in a zone is rarely happening naturally
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  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aenarion View Post
    Because you said "I was randomly thinking what if we get locked out of the zone because of to many players/mobs loaded."

    Your entire premise is based upon the assumption that every zone will only support a finite number of concurrent users and will be hard coded to lock players out once that number is reached. An assumption that has no actual material support outside of your assumption, making the whole discussion irrelevant. We might as well be talking about what tactic and strategies we should be using in 2.0 for the Martian Pony Invasion raid.
    Actually, Yoshi-P has discussed that very issue. There's a translation/summary of info in a thread around here (I'd need to find it), but he specifically says they're considering two options for the possibility of a zone reaching maximum capacity (which seems to be 1000 people). One option is a lock-out, the other is to have a new instance of the zone created for people to go into instead.

    As he doesn't anticipate having 1000 people in the same zone as a "normal" thing, they're not sure which would be the best way to go about it and are mulling it over.

    So, the OP is bringing up a valid topic. It's a big "what if", but it's something that they still need to account for because it could happen.

    Edit: Endigiont found the bit I was referring to. Woo!
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  3. #13
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    Hey, uhh... the game isn't out yet. Put your penises back into your pants, guys. Once we can actually understand the system by playing it in its finished state, then we can start spamming the forums with complaints.
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    really? they havent even decided what to do and you want to make a petition?

    They even stated they would expect the maximum characters in a zone limit would be an extremely rare occurance to hit. Why do you feel the need to petition against something that hasnt been decided and isn't likely to even be an issue?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemo5990 View Post
    Who are you again?
    Just a normal guy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nemo5990 View Post
    It's not an assumption as everything in the world has a limit so point proven. What if there is a popular area and masses of people are there hunting/grinding on all servers then what ? okay bye.
    Sigh, there is a limit to how much traffic a server node can handle, that's not the issue here. Your assumption is that the response will be a preset hard limit to the number of users, which is only one of the many different ways that are used to address these issues (and one of the least utilized).

    Other (better) ways to address this includes moving players into an overflow server(node) like in GW2, or like Eve Online where server loads are balanced and extra nodes are used to reinforce areas that are under heavy traffic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    really? they havent even decided what to do and you want to make a petition?

    They even stated they would expect the maximum characters in a zone limit would be an extremely rare occurance to hit. Why do you feel the need to petition against something that hasnt been decided and isn't likely to even be an issue?
    Well, just look at the forum these days, with all the repetitive endless spawning of F2P/marriage threads, might as well throw a petition for non-issues in, breaks up the monotony.
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    Last edited by Aenarion; 11-25-2012 at 02:53 PM.

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    "This OP has always been the brightest crown in the box!"

    No one said ever.
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    port with anima.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoshikwalla View Post
    Hey, uhh... the game isn't out yet. Put your penises back into your pants, guys. Once we can actually understand the system by playing it in its finished state, then we can start spamming the forums with complaints.
    Uh, no. While I agree that you should understand the system first, don't wait until the game is already finished.

    The whole point of the beta process is to get the game's problems fixed BEFORE it gets released. FFXIV already wrecked its first chance, so it's already on borrowed time to prove itself and get it right the second time.

    So voice your complaints in alpha/beta. Don't wait until the game is released to the public and its already too late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inaaca View Post
    So voice your complaints in alpha/beta. Don't wait until the game is released to the public and its already too late.
    Problem is the OP isn't voicing his complaint in alpha/beta, he's voicing his complaints before alpha/beta, on an issue he presumes will exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aenarion View Post
    Problem is the OP isn't voicing his complaint in alpha/beta, he's voicing his complaints before alpha/beta, on an issue he presumes will exist.
    I wasn't specifically addressing the OP in that post, I was making a general point.
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