SE consider a free to play option

[Darkillumina]

Goddamn cheapskates. It's a MMO with content that is constantly updated; 10 bucks is nothing.

People are all too happy to pay for DLC that should be on a disc in the first place nowadays but don't want to pay for perpetual updates to a game that is constantly evolving. No wonder the industry is in the gutter.

[Ricky]

Goddamn cheapskates. It's a MMO with content that is constantly updated 10 bucks is nothing.

People are all too happy to pay for DLC that should be on a disc in the first place nowadays but don't want to pay for perpetual updates to a game that is constantly evolving. No wonder the industry is in the gutter.

DLC is a single payment, different thing

[strallaalaa]

fak no, d3 and gw2 were my first and last mmo's i will ever play that have no monthly to them. totally different mmo. the need to stop using the same genre name for all these mmo's cause they not the same.

[A_Hortensia]

FFXIV was only free-to-play because SE, (a historically proud and unapologetic company) wanted to apologize to their fans for the poor condition of a highly anticipated numbered title in their franchise. However, they never had any intention of keeping the game free-to-play. Just as they had announced, when the game reached a point viewed acceptable by the company they began the subscription service and their appreciation (legacy) program.

That said, FFXIV: ARR is a completely different game than what we've all experienced thus far.
I think too many people are bringing up these idea with only 1.0 in mind.

Wasn't 1.0 FTP for most of its life anyway?

I think this is the reason that this idea has been coming up so often.

I imagine there were some people that played 14 when it was free, and didn't continue to play when the subscription fees were added on. I can only assume that these people really enjoyed FF14 for free: saw The End of An Era trailer, have seen the alpha footage of ARR, and want to experience 14 again for free as they had before.

Someone left food out for the stray cats for a while, and now they just keep coming back. Maybe?

You seem like youd fit right in the WoW and FFXI community

What does this mean? Did FFXI turn me into a monster!? ._.

I have no problem paying for something thats good however. I seen F2P games that offered more then 1.0.

Which was why 1.0 was free for so long, and they went straight work on the revamp/improvements.
But we're looking at 2.0 now, and no longer 1.0. You'll be getting your free month of 2.0 so you can make the decision of whether or not 2.0 deserves your money! If it's not your speed or not up to snuff, you can just progress through the story and then let your account lapse until they add something enticing.

A great many XI veterans like you and I did this in between big updates/expansions.

We can do it again. Seems like you're still hoping for the game to be well worth paying for. People will burn you at the stake for even suggesting that the free to play/low quality idea might be okay, though.

After all, it's not just another MMO by some company.. it's also a Final Fantasy title made by video game super power SE. Fanatics are going to want it to be P2P and the highest caliber experience possible because anything else for FF or SE seems ludicrous. (And you've played enough XI to know how crazy us FF fan-boys/girls can be, haven't you?)

Cheers

[Riv]

Nothx. All the F2P games OP mentioned are free for a reason....they suck.

And really. It's like 10 bucks a month, are you seriously that strapped for cash? Fucking go get a job working less than one hour a week at minimum wage instead of bitching about not having everything handed to your ADD ass.

I also don't like the idea of "disposable" games that you pick up and play like once a week for a few hours. The fact that they are "free" promotes zero dedication, breeds shitty players, loses a large sense of accomplishment and increases RMT.

Those games aren't F2P because they are good. They are F2P because they have failed and it's a last ditch effort to attempt to draw some players back.

[Chronic]

F2p No Thanks!!!

[ShinigamiKayla]

Nothx. All the F2P games OP mentioned are free for a reason....they suck.

And really. It's like 10 bucks a month, are you seriously that strapped for cash? Fucking go get a job working less than one hour a week at minimum wage instead of bitching about not having everything handed to your ADD ass.

I also don't like the idea of "disposable" games that you pick up and play like once a week for a few hours. The fact that they are "free" promotes zero dedication, breeds shitty players, loses a large sense of accomplishment and increases RMT.

Those games aren't F2P because they are good. They are F2P because they have failed and it's a last ditch effort to attempt to draw some players back.

I have ADHD and I can afford the game what you talking about o_o and I balance 3 mmos a social life work and college o.O/ bad side i don't have a social life o_o ADHD lets me do like 3 things at once Its awesome =3

[Keith_Dragoon]

I am the type of person who wants to buy a game once not pay any fees for it after paying for around 10 years of FFXI I am pretty much never want to play a fee based game again. Times and attitudes change. Why do you think there is so many F2P mmos now? A lot of people just had enough with the sub model.

While I did pay the monthly fee for FFXI and FFXIV at the same time I felt like I should of been getting more for my money.

Because they failed to deliver a good quality game and lost a ton of subs so they changed to F2P to salvage the game

Star Wars: The Old Republic - Came out full of gamebreaking bugs(1 year later and 1 of my characters is still broken and unplayable), watered down gameplay and waaaay too many servers. Went F2P in 11 months.

DC Universe Online - While being a fun game they did not deliver enough content to keep player interested and so the community dwindled into nothing. Went F2P in 10 months

Guild Wars 2 - Started with a B2P business model but will cash out on your pockets with small expansions that add very little but cost half as much as launch priced purchase.

All Points Bulletin - While not technically a full MMO, was a great game with great ideas being put into it, had the best character customization I've seen in any game and it only got better from that point. HOWEVER the game grew rampant with hackers while at the same time the company made balances to weapons based off a small minority of the players crying because they died to x. This all spiraled out of control, lack of content updates and no actions being taken to rid the game of hackers caused a massive drop in population. In 2 months the company was put into administration and a month later the game went down. Went F2P and bankrupted the company in 4 months(7 if you count the months the game was shut down).

I could name every game that is or went F2P but the story is the same, the games were not recieved well, lost subscribers and as a last ditch effort they make it F2P to keep the game alive and slowly make their profit. The reason we have a staggering ammount of F2P games today is due to the quality of games are lacking big time and people lose the will to keep paying for a "meh" game.

FFXI lasted 10 years and still counting with a P2P model, WoW lasted 8 years and counting with a P2P model and the latter is still widely accepted as one of the most popular MMOs on the market and the one all these new games have to beat while competing with the other newbloods.

[Seirra_Lanzce]

geez im more mad that people keep changing the term F2P into FTP, is not fucking SAME.


https://www.google.com.my/search?q=f...hrome&ie=UTF-8


AND GTFO if you say "Nobody Cares" because the INTERNET DOES! Stupid kids who think they made the INTERNETs

[Shougun]

geez im more mad that people keep changing the term F2P into FTP, is not fucking SAME.


https://www.google.com.my/search?q=f...hrome&ie=UTF-8


AND GTFO if you say "Nobody Cares" because the INTERNET DOES! Stupid kids who think they made the INTERNETs

Ever googled an acronym? There are so many with the same format.

F2P is the generally accepted format (though we are using that term a bit loosely here since really its a hybrid of premium and free).

Free To Play = FTP. Makes sense to me, though of course having a CS background I read File Transfer Protocol, but in context it doesnt make sense so I read Free To Play.

Just like when speaking there, their, they're - context calls function.

Acronyms are not limited to a single set of words. While confusing it is a completely legitimate action.