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  1. #1401
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    i think the best thing to do is to burn all threads and posts about politics, sexual orientation and religion to ashes.

    please make a forum rule to ban users and delete all posts that might invoke heated politics, sexual orientation and religions discussions.

    all these sort of thread did nothing but brings about detriment effects for the community and the company.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eard View Post
    i think the best thing to do is to burn all threads and posts about politics, sexual orientation and religion to ashes.

    please make a forum rule to ban users and delete all posts that might invoke heated politics, sexual orientation and religions discussions.

    all these sort of thread did nothing but brings about detriment effects for the community and the company.
    Ban users that talk about politics, sexual orientation and religious discussions?

    Trololo is how I read your post.

    We were asked to talk about it by Yoshida himself, and we are talking about it in context of the game. There are a few times when it hits context of real life but those moments have been very brief.

    If you cant stomach the discussion that is relevant to the game then just dont join that thread. This thread isnt unique in being heated - every thread has it.

    There is nothing wrong with this thread other then being 141 pages.. lol
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    Last edited by Shougun; 11-24-2012 at 01:59 AM.

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    oh btw. to talk in context of the game.

    is the game purchasable in countries, where homosexuality is illegal?
    wouldn't SSM be a problem then? Oo
    the game would need some kind of disclaimer then i guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phe View Post
    oh btw. to talk in context of the game.

    is the game purchasable in countries, where homosexuality is illegal?
    wouldn't SSM be a problem then? Oo
    the game would need some kind of disclaimer then i guess.

    Laws are not applicable like that. Skyrim has SSM and there are states in the US where SSM is illegal.

    Just like killing people in a game doesnt get you sent to jail. No disclaimer has to be made.
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    what about religious families, where the parents decide what games are okay for their kids?
    wouldn't it be good for them to see on the cover "contains homosexual content" or sthin like that?

    especially in those countries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phe View Post
    what about religious families, where the parents decide what games are okay for their kids?
    wouldn't it be good for them to see on the cover "contains homosexual content" or sthin like that?

    especially in those countries.
    Then I suppose it should already have the disclaimer considering many NPCs already make blatant statements that can be interpreted in no other way than homosexuality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phe View Post
    what about religious families, where the parents decide what games are okay for their kids?
    wouldn't it be good for them to see on the cover "contains homosexual content" or sthin like that?

    especially in those countries.
    Never seen a warning sticker "Contains homosexuals" it would be like "Contains black "people""*, at least in the United States I don't think it would ever go down like that lol. In other countries it may be on the rating sticker - but I doubt it, for the same reason it wont happen on the US rating box.

    If by a countries law it requires notice of homosexual content then obviously SE will put it there, but I want to know which country has that..

    *(picked first race that came to mind that is subjugated to racism (all races technically are), I have nothing against races different from my own)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    Then I suppose it should already have the disclaimer considering many NPCs already make blatant statements that can be interpreted in no other way than homosexuality.
    I think so, too!

    But we're still on the level, where this is just between a player and a NPC.
    One step further is when employees of SE actively promote same sex relationships between actual players by doing a wedding ceremony.

    So i think it's not a bad idea with the label.
    Show Colours, Square-Enix!

    but that's just my opinion.
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    Any kind of marriage in this game will be between player and player. It is a personal thing that a player willingly gets into. Can't say the same thing about clicking on an NPC and then reading more than you bargained for. How private it is, we can't really say until we see it but my guess is it is pretty private outside of the people you invite to the event. Nobody else will be any wiser to it.

    FFXIV currently has an ESRB rating of T for Teen.

    This means it has alcohol reference, animated blood, language, suggestive themes, and violence. Gay characters or (non-sexual)content also falls into this fold and most games that have it have this rating. At most, the game should have a M rating for Mature (17+) but not because two people of the same sex could possibly get married. It should have it because NPCs are outright making sexual remarks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phe View Post
    what about religious families, where the parents decide what games are okay for their kids?
    wouldn't it be good for them to see on the cover "contains homosexual content" or sthin like that?

    especially in those countries.
    Let the appropriate rating entities decide what "warnings" should be on the box. However perhaps the parents themselves should do more research into what games they are buying for their children, if they're that concerned.

    Also, at least in the US with the ESRB: "Online interactions not rated by the ESRB". I think MMO marriage might fall into that category, specifically where the system does not restrict players from using a system how they choose. It's the same as using chat or emotes (game systems) to engage in what some might consider "offensive". Within certain bounds you cannot restrict how players use the systems.
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