You complain about FFXIV grass? Skyrim has better! :(

[Shioban]

As a developer myself this post makes me cringe, but for someone who doesn't know how the design process goes this may provide a cue:

Recreating anything organic in 3D is a nightmare to balance between visual quality and performance. As all 3D objects are built up using 'Polygons' keeping this poly-count low is essential to maintain a good level of performance.

Foliage such as plants, flower, trees and grass can all eat through an enormous amount of polygons quite easily if each individual leaf, branch, flower was modeled to scale. For something so small this is unnecessary so instead we use methods such as this:

https://developer.valvesoftware.com/...lacement_Grass

Where something such as leafs, grass, flowers can all be reduced down to a very low poly count allowing a greater amount of foliage to be rendered at once, whilst not impacting performance too heavily.

There are many methods to do this, however if you watch the 'Limit Break' trailer, you can see the grass uses a very similar method to the one I posted.

I hope this is of some help make things clearer.

EDIT: As a side-note to the original post, DirectX 11 & 11.1 these new 'libraries' won't really provide any help in making better grass ...

[wiremeshi]

I can't resist anymore

Patrick Stewart: But Ive seen everything. And I get on my bike and ride off.......on the grass

[Akira_Tenshi]

who cares? skyrim isnt an MMO

This.........

[Cedri]

http://kotaku.com/5961994/what-skyri...0-mods-at-once

Honestly, I think that when and if the development team gets around to a DirectX 11 (11.1) patch in the future, ARR will possibly look just as good. I believe so, but jeebus, look at the grass on that Skyrim with 100 mods. Could ARR look like that in the future? O_O

This would be worth burning out my computer for. XD

[Roaran]

If you read the page that article is talking about, that guy goes form 38 fps to 8 fps from switching to that grass. Square Enix has some VERY capable artists. The issue is not being able to create really nice looking grass, it's getting it to work well in game. Ofcourse adding options to players can help, it can also be redundant.

But hopefully by now it is recognized how stupid this thread is.

[Abriael]

But hopefully by now it is recognized how stupid this thread is.

I'd say most have. The funniest part is that the OP invokes DirectX 11 when Skyrim is strictly a directX 9 game.

But hey, what do you expect from a thread born from quoting Kotaku?

[Majidah]

I don't get why people are making such a huge deal out of XIV's grass with games out there that look like WoW.

[Shougun]

I don't get why people are making such a huge deal out of XIV's grass with games out there that look like WoW.

lol!

Blizz is working on a next gen MMO though (been a few years.. so probably another 10 knowing blizzard XD)

Anyway no ones realistic computer will be able to play exactly like those screens. Mostly as Abriael pointed out there is a retarded (super intensive) ENB going on and the grass density and distance is insane. (Though everyone should know change the ENB and reduce grass draw distance or density slightly and it is completely playable - also there are similar ENBs that are "less" intensive).

Of course I noticed the grass but I also noticed some of the awesome textures going on - which is why somewhere in here I said "I hope when DX11 comes out they can also pump out an HD pack". Pixels in mah textures.. "Ah hell no".. lol

[Phe]

let's compare with other successful multiplayer online games.

[Abriael]

let's compare with other successful multiplayer online games.

this post is made of win.