RED MAGE VS TIME MAGE

[Endigiont]

Please enlighten me why playing XI matters in any way. No matter what answer you give, you're going to look like a fool.

Oh uh huh, someone have soggy cereal this morning? My point was that RDM in XI was a conglomerate of spells taken from other possible jobs, Time Mage and Mystic Knight being the main two, and Red mage was pretty OP in XI. These were all added after it's launch (Refresh wasn't a spell RDM had at launch) to make RDM more unique and desirable in a party (Though they never nailed down the mechanics to have it melee in a party properly). Now what I'm getting at is that we should ask random gamers who haven't play XI and ask them which job is more iconic.

But no that's probably not good enough to enlighten you, because after all any answer I give is going to make me look like a fool (Dramatic much son? Also hi I'm from Asura, I know we're drama queens long live Asura)

[Alaltus]

Oh uh huh, someone have soggy cereal this morning? My point was that RDM in XI was a conglomerate of spells taken from other possible jobs, Time Mage and Mystic Knight being the main two, and Red mage was pretty OP in XI. These were all added after it's launch (Refresh wasn't a spell RDM had at launch) to make RDM more unique and desirable in a party (Though they never nailed down the mechanics to have it melee in a party properly). Now what I'm getting at is that we should ask random gamers who haven't play XI and ask them which job is more iconic.

But no that's probably not good enough to enlighten you, because after all any answer I give is going to make me look like a fool (Dramatic much son? Also hi I'm from Asura, I know we're drama queens long live Asura)

Thing is, if you ask which is more iconic because of the nature of the question Red Mage would likely have a broader base of players, Red Mage was around since FF1 and useable from the beginning. Any FF player of any age will be able to tell you what a Red Mage is. The only FF game with a job system that didnt have Red Mage that i know of was FF tactics and FFXII Revenant Wings. FFIX too though there were Red Mage NPCs at a bunch of towns. Time Mage has 7 appearances within a Job System FFV, the 3 FF tactics games, FFXII international, FFXII Revenant Wings and Bravely default. Compared to Red Mages 10 appearances within a Job System starting with Final Fantasy, FFIII, FFV, Final Fantasy XI, FF Tactics Advance, FF Tactics A2, Bravely Default, FF Dimensions and FF Brigade. When it comes down to it Red Mage is a older more constant Job choice.

As i've said i dont think they are in competition if anything traditionally Time Mage has more competition in Black and White Mage than it does in Red Mage. As for Mystic Knight i'd like to see it more of a Elemental Weaponskill/Elemental stance user than a enspell user having to recast enspells is tidious and the original Sorcerer/Mystic Knight was really slow wasting turns to imbue your weapon for very little increase compared to other jobs in damage if any.

[Andrien]

Time Mage has 6 appearances FFV, the 3 FF tactics games, FFXII international and Bravely default.

11 appearances:

FFV
FFVIII Ultimicia
FFX Tidus section of the Sphere Grid contains the Slow and Haste spells, as well as their upgrades Slowga and Hastega.
Final Fantasy XII International
Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift
Dissidia Time Mage job card
Dissidia 012 Time Mage job card
Bravely default

[Alaltus]

11 appearances:

FFV
FFVIII Ultimicia
FFX Tidus section of the Sphere Grid contains the Slow and Haste spells, as well as their upgrades Slowga and Hastega.
Final Fantasy XII International
Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift
Dissidia Time Mage job card
Dissidia 012 Time Mage job card
Bravely default

You missed Ultimecia's appearance in Theatrhythm =P