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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiddle View Post
    Well another step in the solution direction is, to make the game check account info. Every one fills the account info with correct gender and what not information... That way even if you do play a Female character but are male IRL, getting married to another Female character which is in fact a Female in RL would not solve 1/2 the problem.

    As well it can be a choice the game could use character information or account information which ever best gives the desired results. That would cover the base for opposite gender couples which don't play opposite characters in game. This way gender in game would not play much of a role if people so choose...
    Why? This isn't an official ceremony. Wouldn't you encourage players to lie? SE wouldn't gain very much out of this, especially since it didn't require this info for many years. Some might not even be comfortable disclosing this information.
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    You know what! I know my idea's are not perfect, as well i know some will disagree with them to some extent or another. However what I am aiming at is not one solution to solve all. But the best round about manner with which come 3 months time SE will not be faced with a crippling stone around it's neck do to one bad call.

    As well the info your so shy to disclosing is in SE's archives as you gave it to them when you made your account.. A
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiddle View Post
    You know what! I know my idea's are not perfect, as well i know some will disagree with them to some extent or another. However what I am aiming at is not one solution to solve all. But the best round about manner with which come 3 months time SE will not be faced with a crippling stone around it's neck do to one bad call.

    As well the info your so shy to disclosing is in SE's archives as you gave it to them when you made your account.. A
    You know, i still haven't heard of the purported mmo haven of a country that would lock out SE and its gaming population over this...what you are proposing isn't a solution at all. I'm not sure where you think the problem is. Gaming journalists aren't the type to be up in arms over these decisions...

    And also, if you are referring to credit card information, there are those who play without their own card, like minors.
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  4. #1144
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    You know, i still haven't heard of the purported mmo haven of a country that would lock out SE and its gaming population over this...what you are proposing isn't a solution at all. I'm not sure where you think the problem is. Gaming journalists aren't the type to be up in arms over these decisions...
    I can't point a finger as to which country would make a stink over SS partnership, as i don't know the law in every scrap of land on the planet. But if the possibility exists to make a stink, some one will make it. Were the problem is, is that Yoshi-P is calling the performed act "an in game marriage", and as long as it's labeled as such it can never be SS. If it is, then that means that SE is taking a side which would negatively impact the company.

    I don't care for either side: for or against SS, my worry is waiting longer then i have to for a game i want to play..

    Edit: I doubt minors would care if they can get hitched in a game or not!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiddle View Post
    I can't point a finger as to which country would make a stink over SS partnership, as i don't know the law in every scrap of land on the planet. But if the possibility exists to make a stink, some one will make it. Were the problem is, is that Yoshi-P is calling the performed act "an in game marriage", and as long as it's labeled as such it can never be SS. If it is, then that means that SE is taking a side which would negatively impact the company.

    I don't care for either side: for or against SS, my worry is waiting longer then i have to for a game i want to play..

    Edit: I doubt minors would care if they can get hitched in a game or not!
    So you say there would be a stink, but cannot say where or who, or even how it would delay the game...but someone would complain. Oh the horror!

    Here's the thing. Everyone complains about something. The jump button, the grass, Why is this so special a case when you cannot point where the threat lies? How would this delay the game for you to the point that no mmo designer, ever must cross this line(and several already have)?

    And seriously, this isn't official you know. Playdates happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    So you say there would be a stink, but cannot say where or who, or even how it would delay the game...but someone would complain. Oh the horror!

    Here's the thing. Everyone complains about something. The jump button, the grass, Why is this so special a case when you cannot point where the threat lies? How would this delay the game for you to the point that no mmo designer, ever must cross this line(and several already have)?

    And seriously, this isn't official you know. Playdates happen.
    Especially because, you know, it probably won't even be in at launch lol.

    The system for weddings--proper services and such--might not be available right from the beginning. It’ll most likely be added in a patch. However, we’ve already prepared a place for it.
    Something that is not included at launch cannot hold up the game's launch. Once the game has launched they can add it. And honestly if it's among a patch likely ripe with other content, those who oppose it likely won't notice. They're even less likely to notice if SE doesn't call any attention to the removal of the restriction, or if they don't call it marriage anymore.

    The chance of some huge incident coming from the removal of the restriction is highly unlikely, especially from any source that actually pertains to the game itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiddle View Post

    Edit: I doubt minors would care if they can get hitched in a game or not!
    Survey says -- wrong!

    Waaaay back when I used to play XI, in the early days I had several circles of friends who were around 14~17 (they were a tad younger than me at the time) and there were quite a few that married their in-game partners. There's also a couple of those who married in-game who kept the relationship going over these years and are also trying to marry irl now.


    You're also not going to have to wait longer to play ARR, if the marriage system isn't ready for release they will put it in later (I'm pretty sure this is what's happening, though they have the venue covered). So your worries again are unnecessary.

    People will complain whether they leave SSM out or whether they put it in, it can't be helped - I think SE will be fine nomatter what they pick but it would be a step forward if they allowed people to marry whomever they wanted.
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    All i know is we are currently arguing for the sake of arguing. This subject in general is very touchy, and some of you guys are down playing it to sound as if the solutions is as easy as a yes or no poll. Well it's not. Depending on how SE approaches this, the repercussions can be major. As such am looping back to an earlier post of mine, that SE as of right now have taken the perfect position, the aspect that few if any will object to, is confirmed. And keeping the other one up in the air with no anchors in the ground.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiddle View Post
    All i know is we are currently arguing for the sake of arguing. This subject in general is very touchy, and some of you guys are down playing it to sound as if the solutions is as easy as a yes or no poll. Well it's not. Depending on how SE approaches this, the repercussions can be major.
    Repercussions from what? Who would deliver these repercussions? You say major, well what are they?
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