What the hell is going on in this thread. I clicked it hoping to read a discussion about PVP, and instead the first 3 pages are people arguing about what has already been confirmed or disconfirmed, or proposing ridiculous PVP ideas that would NEVER WORK IN XIV (open world PVP, are you serious?).

Normally I don't take the time to post my disappointment with bad threads, but honestly, this one deserves it. Some of you should be ashamed.