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  1. #1031
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teuciont View Post
    It's not a notable amount of western players, it's a vocal minority. It won't bother me if it's in either way, I just find it disgusting that people find this to be more of an issue than anything game play related, more important than the EoaE trailer itself.
    I know right. This isn't Final Marriage Fantasy FFXIV : A couple Reborn
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    Getting engaged to pixels is serious business. Not. But it being added as an afterthought for people who think this way is fine as long as square focuses on the actual game and not the e-dating. And if it's your RL partner it shouldn't matter at all since you're already together IRL, geez.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlock View Post
    Good thing westerns =/= the entire world.
    Are you seriously gonna talk about human rights in a MMO?
    To hook up with someone has never been a reason to play this kind of game.
    /facedesk
    It's not about hooking up, there are a lot of r/l couples that play the game. Marriage/weddings in a game is like 'fluff' content, adds to the whole RP aspect of MMORPG; I find that kind of thing pretty cool, I love community based stuff even if it doesn't revolve around the usual killing of small fuzzy animals but if you're not into that kind of thing it's ok, no one will force you to do it ^^

    Marriage IS being implemented and we were asked for our opinions on this by Yoshi-P himself, it's a delicate topic so we've been trying to find a solution that works for everyone.

    @Teuciont; again, we were asked for our feedback on it, so here it is . Just because we're talking about this doesn't mean we're not also using our energies to discuss the other aspects of ARR, this is after-all one of many topics on ARR in the forums.
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    This is the only topic on the front page that has more than 500 replies, other than unique media and maymays. And this thread was started 6 days ago. You've said what your opinion is multiple times, I don't get what you think telling the devs that you want same sex marriage for 104 pages is going to accomplish. They realize people want it, or they wouldn't have brought it up during the live letter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teuciont View Post
    This is the only topic on the front page that has more than 500 replies, other than unique media and maymays. And this thread was started 6 days ago. You've said what your opinion is multiple times, I don't get what you think telling the devs that you want same sex marriage for 104 pages is going to accomplish. They realize people want it, or they wouldn't have brought it up during the live letter.
    We're discussing ideas on how to implement it without crushing people's toes (You could read some of the thread and see that^^), such as changing the name for example; having it player-run instead of what it was like early on in XI with the GMs so that SE wouldn't actually have to take a stance on it, then they could just say that 'well, players can get married with no restrictions'.

    If you have any ideas feel free to contribute^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanemakikaze View Post
    Getting engaged to pixels is serious business. Not. But it being added as an afterthought for people who think this way is fine as long as square focuses on the actual game and not the e-dating. And if it's your RL partner it shouldn't matter at all since you're already together IRL, geez.


    Don't get me wrong. At least I don't want marriage to be the core of ARR.
    And I agree that they have to focus on the important things that make the game FFXIV. Marriage is just a very minor side issue. BUT it is already on the way to be implemented so the rescources are already (planned to be) used on it.
    So we are not asking to turn FFXIN into a dating game but to give feedback on this feature on which feedback was asked for.

    I 100% support amazing fantasy adventure as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlock View Post
    I know right. This isn't Final Marriage Fantasy FFXIV : A couple Reborn
    Lmao, nice one. Well, people can't have or make a gay marriage irl so they want it in a video game, it's more meaningful in a video game they will end up leaving eventually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teuciont View Post
    It's not a notable amount of western players, it's a vocal minority. It won't bother me if it's in either way, I just find it disgusting that people find this to be more of an issue than anything game play related, more important than the EoaE trailer itself.
    So you find the fact that people think marriage equality is important to be disgusting? I mean no one's said they think it's a bigger issue than everything else, it's just been discussed more. Also we don't know a whole lot about the actual game yet so all the other gameplay related discussions are little more than speculation.

    This thread is discussion a very specific restriction in the marriage system that we know about and there's really nothing else to know about it. The current decision is to restrict marriage to heterosexual couples, that's a current fact. We're discussing what we think about that decision.

    We're not here to really discuss whether marriage should be added or not because they've already announced it, it's a definite. They tend to not announce things that might be implemented, they announce things that will be implemented.
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    If you don't care about in game marriage.. then why are you posting in here?

    As it has been stated about 100 times, Yoshida asked for our opinions on whether same sex marriage should be allowed.

    This is a topic about whether it should be allowed or not.

    Human rights has been picked up, because certain people have brought up real life morality - implying that homosexuality is immoral.

    If you don't care about this issue, then don't bother posting because this thread isn't asking for your 'lol marriage in a game?' opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    How do you figure it offends the least people who play FFXIV, or are gamers in general? I mean those are the people the game concerns so in this case those are the opinions that matter. Over 75% of the votes here alone are for it and most gaming blogs/websites don't openly condemn other games that allow same sex relations.

    I wouldn't be concerned with non-gamers making a huge deal about it, as they often do. FFXIV is so low key anyway that I doubt many would even notice.

    Also as I said before, they don't have to announce it as allowing same sex marriage. They can take a more neutral stance and simply say they're allowing all players to get married. They don't have to openly support it if they simply don't restrict it. Or as many have suggested simply call it something different, for everyone. Completely avoids same sex "marriage".
    It's a touchy subject with a lot of people. And I'm not against same sex marriage, I'm against people mocking it. I don't feel like seeing bride and groom pairs running around just for the sake of the benefits of the marriage in game. This is a serious subject world wide and I don't see how it can be treated casually here.
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