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  1. #951
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiddle View Post
    I fully agree that a new term should be used when referring to the emotions, feelings, love 2 people have for each other regardless of the gender. As the word marriage (like stated above) is a term used to "bond" 2 people of opposite genders together for means of procreation and (like stated above) many times be it in past or present the ritual of said word is done do to necessity than actual love between 2 people.

    Thing is and this is the hard part the term used needs to be "new". As union, bond, partner ship, exe, are far to closely intertwined with the word marriage. In the last 10 years i have been to ~50 weddings, and soon will attend my own (none of which are, were SS). And nearly all terms we are using now are used when 2 people speak vows.
    As for names, I've seen:
    Bonding, Soulbond, Pairing, Pact come up, I mentioned handfasting (Which if memory serves me well originated in ancient Europe and involved tying the hands of the couple together to show a permanent bond)

    I'm totally open to new name ideas, feel free to think of some if you can and add them to this thread!

    Also good luck on your r/l wedding Twiddle!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colvin View Post
    And all the people who happen to be in the forums right now who agree with same sex marriage is great, but down-playing the talk of a real-world solution as applied to a pan-socilological issue is inflamatory, rude, and frankly counter-productive to the solution process.
    Can you reword in a manner more easily understood with out me using thesaurus!!!

    Anyway i don't think that anyone is "down-playing" anything here, a solution to a "pan-sociological" problem is needed to pacify people who will potentially play this "game".. A solution which will not in any manner of speaking affect anything or any out come in every day culture. You have a problem much older then people alive today, being looked at by people who have never used dial up internet. Best approach is to band aid the issue for the sake of the game launch and move forward. There are factors here at play that many aren't even aware of, as such best solution is to as band aid the topic.
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    Add a disciple of faith class can join any players in bonding at level 50 >.> just wondering :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiddle View Post
    You have a problem much older then people alive today, being looked at by people who have never used dial up internet.
    I don't disagree. However, I think there is some virtue, especially in today's society with presenting a solution that everyone can get behind as far as execution. Macro ideas are always built in a microcosm and if there was a system put forth that really got somewhere, I guarantee you it would be reported on and see some limited traction, if at least in some small internet medium.

    I see no reason why the LBGT marriage equality can't be solved in a platform like this.
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  5. #955
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    Quote Originally Posted by odintius View Post
    Add a disciple of faith class can join any players in bonding at level 50 >.> just wondering :P
    Haha that would be awesome!
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  6. #956
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colvin View Post
    I don't disagree. However, I think there is some virtue, especially in today's society with presenting a solution that everyone can get behind as far as execution. Macro ideas are always built in a microcosm and if there was a system put forth that really got somewhere, I guarantee you it would be reported on and see some limited traction, if at least in some small internet medium.

    I see no reason why the LBGT marriage equality can't be solved in a platform like this.
    Again use simpler words!!

    Any who, to comment on your statement. I don't typically quote movies but I'll do it this time.
    "A person is smart, wise, and rational... people are blind, irrational, and stupid" MIB I
    Unless you can make people see the BIG picture, what you are thinking is impossible.

    The LBGT equality can be addressed, first step being don't use the word marriage after the acronym. What people understand under that word has 0 connection with what a dictionary will read. As well that word does not represent the relation ship a LBGT couple would have to begin with.
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    I am against using the word partner for calling your bonded other half. Mainly because when you hear the word partner in RL, everyone automatically assumes a buisness partner, and then there's an awkward silence as you explain what you mean by that.

    No one is confused by the words husband or wife, which is why if we have a different word for calling your other half, it should be something entirely new or descriptive enough that people don't get tripped over what your using the word for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psion View Post
    I am against using the word partner for calling your bonded other half. Mainly because when you hear the word partner in RL, everyone automatically assumes a buisness partner, and then there's an awkward silence as you explain what you mean by that.

    No one is confused by the words husband or wife, which is why if we have a different word for calling your other half, it should be something entirely new or descriptive enough that people don't get tripped over what your using the word for.
    I've never had that problem D: ... It's a pretty common term.

    As for the husband/wife thing, I'm not entirely sure what word you could use that signifies 'unity' while sidestepping the stigma of marriage.

    Partner / Bonded partner pretty much summed it up, though if they picked something like pact then... pact-mate? But that may not work depending on how you look at the word 'mate' lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nix View Post
    I've never had that problem D: ... It's a pretty common term.

    As for the husband/wife thing, I'm not entirely sure what word you could use that signifies 'unity' while sidestepping the stigma of marriage.

    Partner / Bonded partner pretty much summed it up, though if they picked something like pact then... pact-mate? But that may not work depending on how you look at the word 'mate' lol.
    Would be hard to use mate in terms of a binding between sisters/brothers (if your intention was to bind in that way rather then a SSM like scenario).

    Just make up a word that means to have your paths be melded together as witnessed by the lodestone

    I'm sure there are words in other languages that refer to "soul mate" in a broader term but I cant think of anything in english that wasnt already mentioned lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nix View Post
    I've never had that problem D: ... It's a pretty common term.

    As for the husband/wife thing, I'm not entirely sure what word you could use that signifies 'unity' while sidestepping the stigma of marriage.

    Partner / Bonded partner pretty much summed it up, though if they picked something like pact then... pact-mate? But that may not work depending on how you look at the word 'mate' lol.
    This has been talked about for ages, how do you side step something that predates written history, to mend an issue just as old? The union of a man and a woman for the purpose of procreation. And the agreement to take care and protect that person and said offspring has been defined by the word marriage. The word means little more. Issue here is what should the "-------" between a man and a man or a woman and woman, or anything of that caliber be called. Emotion between the 2 partners exists "BUT" no procreation can happen.
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