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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiddle View Post
    Officially asking for feedback does not mean that officially something will happen. I quite honestly do not believe SE will take a side, you guys are thinking about this locally, look at it globally and it's easy to see that. What SE picks will directly impact the product on a global scale.

    In some countries games, which 13 year old's play in the US/Canada, are banned. And SE am sure don't want that on their hands, so while feedback will be collected, discussions will be done, and opinions appreciated. Don't hold your breath.
    A global solution would be to name the system something else and make it not explicitly romantic, as has been suggested many times. I don't think there's global issue with something like that.
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    From what I have read about the newer translation is same sex marriage as of the moment of the letter in. They want to see what the players have to say about it though to avoid making a wrong decision.
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    I support same-sex marriage.
    It is a wonderful expression of love and they have the right to do so if both party are consenting.
    Your religion doesn't support/allow same-marriage? Not relevant unless you are a follower of The Twelve, in which case you will comply to what the Church in-game says anyway.
    In my opinion, no one should ever prevent two consenting persons from doing what they want together.
    (I can already hear some of you presenting stupid examples as counter arguments, just let me reply with this: as long as they both are consenting to it.)
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    LOL cash shop! SE's way to tell their player how they appreciate them... pull the carrot and empty your pockets $$$
    And to those who support it: you are kicking yourselves. -- We just need to sit back and laugh at people with cash shop items.
    (Marvelous economics IQ test!)

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    I don't post on weekend's but it's now Monday!

    I can’t say whether or not it will be possible at this point in time. I’d like to keep dialog open with our players as we deliberate the matter.
    I have heard this before, not from Yoshi-P, and not relating to a MMO issue. It was in post secondary when i was learning human relations. Simply put SE will not close the case, but will neither move in one direction or another. Too much controversy surrounds this topic, as such from a business stand point it would be unwise for a company to take side.

    Introducing opposite sex marriage in game, and keeping the same gender idea up in the air. Is best way to keep neutral.
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    In all honesty, I don't think this would be such a hot topic if they didn't use that magic word: 'marriage.' Were it a union by any other name, I'm confident there'd be a less vocal opposition for it. That said, I'm all for it. It seems silly to restrict the genders in a relationship when many players play as cross-gendered characters.

    Furthermore, those who are against same-sex marriage IRL opposing it here are being silly. I know several heterosexual couples who play as the same gender in FFXIV. If same-sex relationships were not permitted in-game, they would not be able to wed despite being heterosexual. Even more contradictory, I know of a homosexual couple who are playing as a male and female character, so they WOULD be able to get wed. Does this mean you are actually promoting same-sex couples professing their love in-game? How utterly foolish to think that homosexual couples IRL are restricted to homosexual relationships in-game.
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    One more vote for SSM in-game!
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    Well another step in the solution direction is, to make the game check account info. Every one fills the account info with correct gender and what not information... That way even if you do play a Female character but are male IRL, getting married to another Female character which is in fact a Female in RL would not solve 1/2 the problem.

    As well it can be a choice the game could use character information or account information which ever best gives the desired results. That would cover the base for opposite gender couples which don't play opposite characters in game. This way gender in game would not play much of a role if people so choose...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiddle View Post
    Well another step in the solution direction is, to make the game check account info. Every one fills the account info with correct gender and what not information... That way even if you do play a Female character but are male IRL, getting married to another Female character which is in fact a Female in RL would not solve 1/2 the problem.

    As well it can be a choice the game could use character information or account information which ever best gives the desired results. That would cover the base for opposite gender couples which don't play opposite characters in game. This way gender in game would not play much of a role if people so choose...
    That is just making sure that real life hetro's can be ritualized but real life homosexuals cannot.

    Thats unacceptable..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiddle View Post
    Well another step in the solution direction is, to make the game check account info. Every one fills the account info with correct gender and what not information... That way even if you do play a Female character but are male IRL, getting married to another Female character which is in fact a Female in RL would not solve 1/2 the problem.

    As well it can be a choice the game could use character information or account information which ever best gives the desired results. That would cover the base for opposite gender couples which don't play opposite characters in game. This way gender in game would not play much of a role if people so choose...
    The only problem with that is people can lie. And it's still not really marriage equality, like you said it only solves part of the problem.
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