Marriage feedback [inofficial Poll]

[Nix]

Are you saying official weddings are not allowed for the LG community? Or that there are no official weddings lol?

I think Khaiden is saying no official weddings for anyone-- let it be player run as it was after it was changed in XI^^.
(Not sure how much of XI you've played, but they did start with official weddings, then move to player run ones allowing the dresses / tuxes / rings to be bought from a chest, sorry if you knew this already^^)

[Colvin]

(Not sure how much of XI you've played, but they did start with official weddings, then move to player run ones allowing the dresses / tuxes / rings to be bought from a chest, sorry if you knew this already^^)

I still think something like this is the best solution, and make some of the wedding areas instanced such that you can go in with your own wedding party.

I don't really support gay marriage in real life either as a personal note, but I have advocated getting rid of state sponsored religeon for a long time. Honestly, I think the issue comes down to the use of the word "marriage" to begin with and tieing it to religous groups. If you give EVERYONE a civil union based on a non-love, non-sex, contractual agreement as a replacement to marriage certifiicates, I think we would see this problem go away.

That way, people of various religeons or beliefs can get "married" in any way they see fit and the civil union can even be optional.

A similar objective approach in the game would also work, I believe.

[Shougun]

It has religeon... people worship the twelve...


Also, this is still going on? I feel like it is this kind of extension of the presidential debates.

Something else I should point out that most people dont get when they see references to "gay" stuff in Japanese culture.

THEY ARE MAKING FUN OF IT.

The Japanese are not a pro-LBGT society. I have lived there for many years and most of the male friends I have there are scared to DEATH of gay men. Naturally, it is a chauvanist society, so 2 women together is just seen as kinky (sadly). There have been changes over the years in a liberal direction but they are FAR from openly accepting gay culture.

It seems harmless to us when we see them making fun of LBGT characters because our own media embraces LBGT peoples with open arms and actively promotes the acceptance of it in society (Fox News and CNN aside).

Just keep that in mind when you are trying to use Japanese examples or get behind them in an attempt to point out that they or their products somehow support LBGT goals.

I get that in general but I'm pretty sure Vanille and Fang in FFXIII was a legitimate support.

[Colvin]

I get that in general but I'm pretty sure Vanille and Fang in FFXIII was a legitimate support.

Id have to disgree and also just be generally confused

[Shougun]

Id have to disgree and also just be generally confused

Weirdest friendship I've ever seen if they arent loving each other lol

[Colvin]

Weirdest friendship I've ever seen if they arent loving each other lol

uh... they were sisters? from a communal villiage? and they were pressed in to servitude with inevitable death (or so they thought). I don't think you have to be in love in that scenario.

[Shougun]

uh... they were sisters? from a communal villiage? and they were pressed in to servitude with inevitable death (or so they thought). I don't think you have to be in love in that scenario.

Sisters?! Where did you get that lol

(I suppose naturally being aganist that kind of relationship would make it seem like sisters to you though.. lol)

[Colvin]

Sisters?! Where did you get that lol

(I suppose naturally being aganist that kind of relationship would make it seem like sisters to you though.. lol)

because they say it? like several places in the game. I can find you quotes if you need.

[Shougun]

because they say it? like several places in the game. I can find you quotes if you need.

Oh you are going off the raised together orphan part. They are from different clans so they arent really sisters (impossible blood wise).

[Colvin]

Oh you are going off the orphan part. They are from different clans so they arent really sisters (impossible blood wise).

oh I don't mean by blood no. They state that everyone there is like a family and they refer to themselves as sisters.

That aside, there are LOTS of places in japanese culture in anime with women who have very close relationships but are not lesbians. Additionally, there is always this sense that they are together but they would always welcome a man if the right one came along (which most of the lesbians I know have pointed out and find rather insulting).