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    This reminds me of Alpha Testing 1.0

    exact words were words to defend the game...

    Lets hope it doesn't happen again
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderz View Post
    This reminds me of Alpha Testing 1.0

    exact words were words to defend the game...

    Lets hope it doesn't happen again
    Actually I kinda hope it happens again. That way they can fix it. Again this is assuming the worst case scenario that they didn't notice and fix anything but are just following the same motions again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genjuro View Post
    Actually I kinda hope it happens again. That way they can fix it. Again this is assuming the worst case scenario that they didn't notice and fix anything but are just following the same motions again.
    I don't want to BETA test a game again

    if they screw up ARR I won't play this game simple fact
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderz View Post
    I don't want to BETA test a game again

    if they screw up ARR I won't play this game simple fact
    True. This is SE's last hope. I'm sure that a lot of people will feel the same.

    If this doesn't make it, I'm sure a whole new restructuring will be in effect, and it won't just be the development team, it'll probably be the head of SE, Wada himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderz View Post
    I don't want to BETA test a game again

    if they screw up ARR I won't play this game simple fact
    No problem
    Just send me your beta key if you get one ^^

    And before we can give feedback how good or bad the servers work during alpha we should first play the alpha ourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderz View Post
    This reminds me of Alpha Testing 1.0

    exact words were words to defend the game...

    Lets hope it doesn't happen again
    The difference with 1.0 is that Tanaka wouldn't admit there were problems with the game. He was not frank and open about how things were, what wasn't right and what needed fixing. Even to this day, after leaving SE, he won't admit that he screwed up. He passively puts the blame on the developers/designers he was directing.

    The problem isn't in people saying "It's Alpha, you're going to see these things". That's 100% true. That's why Alpha tests and Beta tests exist in software development.

    The problem isn't in acknowledging the issues... the problem, with 1.0, was that those issues weren't adequately addressed or prevented when they should have been.

    Yoshi-P is not Tanaka.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Preypacer View Post
    The difference with 1.0 is that Tanaka wouldn't admit
    The difference is, Tanaka stated XIV needed more time due to problems but the higher ups said and felt otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Preypacer View Post
    The difference with 1.0 is that Tanaka wouldn't admit there were problems with the game. He was not frank and open about how things were, what wasn't right and what needed fixing. Even to this day, after leaving SE, he won't admit that he screwed up. He passively puts the blame on the developers/designers he was directing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    The difference is, Tanaka stated XIV needed more time due to problems but the higher ups said and felt otherwise.
    Actually, none of you two knows what happened with 1.0. It' something none of us will ever know, and it was probably not a single issue, but a combination.

    Yet, I'm amazed that this trainwreck of a thread is still going on and some people still wonder why there's lag with an army of characters in the same area, or are any surprised by it. It happens in every MMORPG, no matter the server structure. With that many characters on screen there'll be a degree of lag even in the finished game. If you think there won't be, you're overestimating yoshida. I don't think he has a license for miracles yet. If you think it's a problem, I wonder if you ever played a MMORPG.
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