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  1. #171
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    Laiferr's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yellow View Post
    Has anyone else noticed that there's no religious white knights in here?

    I wonder why the objectification of women is less important than in-game marriage.

    I'm a bit concerned for it, however this game isn't like TERA, and I think the developers have some taste when making gear :P
    Yes... it's curious, isn't it? You are right, I think I might be a bit 'sheltered' since the only other MMO's I have played were FFXI and TOR, so I am used to that style of gear/dev team attitude, and expected more of a Final Fantasy treatment of women. I mean, for example, I quite enjoyed playing Dead or Alive... the boob jiggling was not my cup of tea, but hey, it's DoA and you know what you're getting. With Final Fantasy this isn't what I was expecting from the dev team.

    I'm getting overly worried it could get worse, but there's no way to know that at the moment. Just to wait and see

    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    I didn't read the whole op, but I don't have o to know its dumb.
    Not every thread on the forum is going to be relevant or interesting to you, but you don't need to reply to them all saying so Seriously just don't click on the thread if the subject is not interesting to you.
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    Last edited by Laiferr; 11-13-2012 at 07:15 AM.

  2. #172
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yellow View Post
    Has anyone else noticed that there's no religious white knights in here?
    I'm catholic. I can do that if you want. just to add some colour.
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  3. #173
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhomagus View Post
    Consider reading.
    you REALLY think that because I don't quote your whole thing or agree with you that it mean's I am not reading. I get that you were butt hurt. I read that... I didn't miss it. But simply stating you have "addressed" what I said does not change the conversation.
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  4. #174
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laiferr View Post
    This is a thread about sexism: (define - discrimination or devaluation based on a person's sex.)
    Not sexiness: (define - Arousing or tending to arouse sexual desire or interest.)

    No problem here with sexiness. Problem is with sexism thread is getting very de-railed by people misunderstanding this.
    There is a guy Aiel Waste *YES calling you out* that wears the gear you mentioned on his monk. It shows the Lala's belly, so I tease him on having a sexy belly. "Show me dat belly" "Belly dance for meh"etc. Both of the words you attempted to educate me on contain the word sex. I totally sexually objectified him. It's all about that sex. Humans love sex. Gonna wait and see if he posts a thread about me


    - Are you concerned about female objectification?
    Nah, they love it
    - Are you concerned with how far the FFXIV team will go with sexism?
    Excited by what the dev team has in store
    - Does it in any way effect your enjoyment of the game?
    I get an urge from time to time
    - Has it ever effected how you have been treated as a female avatar?
    Automatically assume you're a guy anyway
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  5. #175
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laiferr View Post
    Yes... it's curious, isn't it? You are right, I think I might be a bit 'sheltered' since the only other MMO's I have played were FFXI and TOR, so I am used to that style of gear, and expected more of a Final Fantasy treatment of women.
    you mean like rikku's outfits? or the bikini outfits in FFXIII-2? or Tifa with really short shorts and huge boobs in a white tank top?

    This isnt new
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  6. #176
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colvin View Post
    you mean like rikku's outfits? or the bikini outfits in FFXIII-2? or Tifa with really short shorts and huge boobs in a white tank top?

    This isnt new
    Tifa doesn't wear shorts! That is a mini-skirt!
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  7. #177
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    Sex sells.
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  8. #178
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    With all due respect to those who are sensitive to the Objectification of women, it is a pretty significant trademark of the series. This, like all Final Fantasy Games, is a High Fantasy Game and to put it Bluntly, Ugly people are not aloud to be main characters. That's just the way it is. More often than not, there are no ugly people at all. If there does happen to be an ugly person they tend to be Evil or Comic relief. Basically every female character of significance in every Final Fantasy has been Beautiful, Sexy or Cute and for a series of this Caliber, it works.

    Personally, I would absolutely hate, and likely stop playing, this game if they turned away from their over the top beautiful/sexy/cute formula. It has nothing to do with sexualizing the characters. It's about making the people as pretty as the world. If you want to look at ugly people all day, I suggest you play Skyrim or Fable.
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  9. #179
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    The maturity level of the responses has really taken a dive as the evening goes on hasn't it?

    Vanity slots make the OP's point about not wanting to be forced into wearing sexy gear for stats into a non issue, so why are you guys misreading the OP and trying to bait an argument still?

    All I see at the end here is several pages of taking what was said, twisting it into a topic it originally was not, and insult slinging.
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  10. #180
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    Just let the developers develope the damn damn without whining about every little detail like adjustable breast size that will be up to the player to make the final decision
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