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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhomagus View Post
    Ignoring that you didn't address what I actually asked, I did say:

    I specifically noted that we don't require our feminine world leaders to dress in that manner. Their leadership should be based on their experience and ability not their sexuality.
    You were the one who started off by saying how she dressed was not empowering. I spoke specifically to that. If can get you a fan-base which, in today's world, is just about all the power you need. I'd say that 200k people liking your facebook page is pretty empowering for anyone looking to have notoriety.

    Now you may not like it, but that is how the world works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colvin View Post
    You were the one who started off by saying how she dressed was not empowering. I spoke specifically to that. If can get you a fan-base which, in today's world, is just about all the power you need. I'd say that 200k people liking your facebook page is pretty empowering for anyone looking to have notoriety.

    Now you may not like it, but that is how the world works.
    You didn't read my post. That's fine.

    You are the one who thinks money = power. If you read my post you'd agree to this. That combined with this most recent response only solidifies this point. That's fine, but that isn't how the world works and I showed you how it really just creates an invisible ceiling but you didn't pay attention to any of that as you didn't not respond to it.

    Correlation is not causation. I already addressed you and your positions in that post. You have not made any counter argument worthy of notable response that I haven't already stated, i.e. quote mining doesn't work.

    We're done. You've objectively forfeited the argument.
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    Last edited by Rhomagus; 11-13-2012 at 10:02 AM.

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    Has anyone else noticed that there's no religious white knights in here?

    I wonder why the objectification of women is less important than in-game marriage.

    I'm a bit concerned for it, however this game isn't like TERA, and I think the developers have some taste when making gear :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yellow View Post
    Has anyone else noticed that there's no religious white knights in here?

    I wonder why the objectification of women is less important than in-game marriage.

    I'm a bit concerned for it, however this game isn't like TERA, and I think the developers have some taste when making gear :P
    Yes... it's curious, isn't it? You are right, I think I might be a bit 'sheltered' since the only other MMO's I have played were FFXI and TOR, so I am used to that style of gear/dev team attitude, and expected more of a Final Fantasy treatment of women. I mean, for example, I quite enjoyed playing Dead or Alive... the boob jiggling was not my cup of tea, but hey, it's DoA and you know what you're getting. With Final Fantasy this isn't what I was expecting from the dev team.

    I'm getting overly worried it could get worse, but there's no way to know that at the moment. Just to wait and see

    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    I didn't read the whole op, but I don't have o to know its dumb.
    Not every thread on the forum is going to be relevant or interesting to you, but you don't need to reply to them all saying so Seriously just don't click on the thread if the subject is not interesting to you.
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    Last edited by Laiferr; 11-13-2012 at 07:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laiferr View Post
    Yes... it's curious, isn't it? You are right, I think I might be a bit 'sheltered' since the only other MMO's I have played were FFXI and TOR, so I am used to that style of gear, and expected more of a Final Fantasy treatment of women.
    you mean like rikku's outfits? or the bikini outfits in FFXIII-2? or Tifa with really short shorts and huge boobs in a white tank top?

    This isnt new
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colvin View Post
    you mean like rikku's outfits? or the bikini outfits in FFXIII-2? or Tifa with really short shorts and huge boobs in a white tank top?

    This isnt new
    Tifa doesn't wear shorts! That is a mini-skirt!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colvin View Post
    you mean like rikku's outfits? or the bikini outfits in FFXIII-2? or Tifa with really short shorts and huge boobs in a white tank top?

    This isnt new

    Ashe, Fran, Yuffie, Selphie, Rinoa, lulu, yuna
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imoen View Post
    Ashe, Fran, Yuffie, Selphie, Rinoa, lulu, yuna
    Are you just naming off characters at random here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imoen View Post
    Ashe, Fran, Yuffie, Selphie, Rinoa, lulu, yuna
    Besides Fran, maybe lulu the others are more modest then what we have in FFXIV. (Dont count FFX-2 because its not even the same world anymore :/ , obvious their target audience changed for that game).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yellow View Post
    Has anyone else noticed that there's no religious white knights in here?
    I'm catholic. I can do that if you want. just to add some colour.
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