Marriage feedback [inofficial Poll]

[Shougun]

I guess if you think the opinions of every culture and time everywhere are no to do with ours... but we could say that the opinions of Americans are vastly different than those of Asian cultures (of which has quite a bit to do with this discussion). My point speaks more to the fact that what you believe is really entirely in the eye of the beholder so pretending that an opinion is better because of the country or culture you are in is better, is a little short-sided.

I have friends that believe in "poly-amory", which most of America would believe is terrible along with plural marriage, but do I say that it means my views are better than theirs? Not at all/

Even religion believed in multiple wives - it only changed recently lol, they are "old souls" ^_^.


What I want to know is are there people (on either side) that would disprove of a re-imagined wedding - one that follows FFXIV lore and gods, and perhaps doesn't even have the same name. Or is it just the aspect that there exists "those not like me".

[LemmingKingXXX]

no, good sir, that is not at all where i was heading. i am not sure how one would arrive at that conclusion from what i said, but it is not at all what i meant. Changing your fundamental beliefs on a whim does not normally occur, though many would like to argue that it does.

I would argue that while a fundamental shift in a personal belief system isn't taken on whimsy, it's a hell of a lot easier to accomplish than actively fighting against a biological urge fueled by naturally produced mind controlling drugs. You learn (and unlearn) religion, no one is born with the base line beliefs and/or dogmatic knowledge. Taking a step back from religion, you can look at the societal norms that aren't based on biological imperatives. Anyone who's raised a 3-year-old will tell you that we aren't born with modesty in either speech or appearance, just as no one is born a patriot (or an anarchist). Granted, it's a lot easier to teach a child to put on pants and not scream at people all the time than it is to make the transition from theist to atheist, but you can't unlearn hunger, thirst or the need for oxygen (you can only be born with or without them).
Why do you think the "it's a choice" argument is so popular for opponents of homosexuality? If sexuality is a choice, then - like religion - you can be taught to act in one way or another, and you can be punished for a wrong choice if it is against the law. If sexuality isn't a choice, however; the waters become far more murky, not only can you not teach someone to be sexual one way or another and have it stick without any long term psychological ramifications should it go against their nature, but passing laws against fundamental sexuality (not overt private/public sexual behavior) are no different than the Jim Crow laws of late 1800's early 1900's USA (or Apartheid etc.).
tl;dr (if you really want one): fundamental beliefs vs biological urges = apples vs oranges
PS: I don't like boys, boys are yucky

[Colvin]

Even religion believed in multiple wives - it only changed recently lol.

That's my point man. People allowed "child" sexual relationships until recently. in the 20-30's lots of people were still married at 12-14. Say that now and everyone freaks out. "Right" and "Wrong" is such a fluid concept anyways that it makes the whole arguement moot. In the end, they should just do what will make the most money.

[drivendawn]

SE please remove marriage so that this thread will go away.

[Arcell]

SE please remove marriage so that this thread will go away.

or add same sex marriage so this thread will go away.

[strallaalaa]

SE please remove marriage so that this thread will go away.

yes please, if there is even higher majority in a mmo it's people that give too shits about wasting resources in a mmo to get couples and rp'ers married. hit vegas and get married for fun and let us play video games that involve kicking the crap out of beasts all day.

[Taika]

Like this post if you want same gender marriage.

400 likes in one day - must be (at least one of) the most popular player-made post on these forums ever. SE please take this into consideration!

[Reika]

There is already going to be a chapel for marriage to be performed.... and they already said they are going to add in marriage, just opposite sex only first.

That however is not the right thing to do, they should just add in both options at the start.

[Zantetsuken]

I would argue that while a fundamental shift in a personal belief system isn't taken on whimsy, it's a hell of a lot easier to accomplish than actively fighting against a biological urge fueled by naturally produced mind controlling drugs. You learn (and unlearn) religion, no one is born with the base line beliefs and/or dogmatic knowledge. Taking a step back from religion, you can look at the societal norms that aren't based on biological imperatives. Anyone who's raised a 3-year-old will tell you that we aren't born with modesty in either speech or appearance, just as no one is born a patriot (or an anarchist). Granted, it's a lot easier to teach a child to put on pants and not scream at people all the time than it is to make the transition from theist to atheist, but you can't unlearn hunger, thirst or the need for oxygen (you can only be born with or without them).
Why do you think the "it's a choice" argument is so popular for opponents of homosexuality? If sexuality is a choice, then - like religion - you can be taught to act in one way or another, and you can be punished for a wrong choice if it is against the law. If sexuality isn't a choice, however; the waters become far more murky, not only can you not teach someone to be sexual one way or another and have it stick without any long term psychological ramifications should it go against their nature, but passing laws against fundamental sexuality (not overt private/public sexual behavior) are no different than the Jim Crow laws of late 1800's early 1900's USA (or Apartheid etc.).
tl;dr (if you really want one): fundamental beliefs vs biological urges = apples vs oranges
PS: I don't like boys, boys are yucky

Sexual urges aren't may not be a choice, but sexual activity certainly is.

If not, society would have no standing by which to punish rapists, peeping toms, child molesters, etc.

[Shougun]

That's my point man. People allowed "child" sexual relationships until recently. in the 20-30's lots of people were still married at 12-14. Say that now and everyone freaks out. "Right" and "Wrong" is such a fluid concept anyways that it makes the whole arguement moot. In the end, they should just do what will make the most money.

Ah I get you , and I agree - the most horrible things only happened recently and where "ok" lol

I honestly think that there wont be a big money difference either way. But I've never experience such a LGBT presence then in this game, so maybe... it is in there interest to support the community (which I would prefer they do also).