The growing entitlement issues of the casuals

[Eldaena]

People that have more time to play are rewarded in the fact that they get new skills, abilities, that they can take over to other classes. Making them stronger overall. Same with crafting. The more work/time you put into it, the better the items can result in. HQ gear isn't something that a casual gamer can easily make, however, people do sell this stuff and casual people can buy it. To fight NMs and do some of that content you need to work on your class to a certain rank to do it. This is the same for all players. People that have more time can get there faster but that doesn't mean that it is locked to casual players. It may take a longer period of time but everything is accessible to everyone after they reach predetermined goals within the game. And they've made ranking up in pretty much every class (save for DoL classes) a lot more accommodating to people with less time. And they could do this because it still benefits people with more time! I think this game has a lot of good things going for it that satiate the hunger of both people with loads of time, and people that have less. Leves, locals, guardians aspect, behests, main story, class stories (several!), NMs...There is always something to do in this game so you can 'nerd out' as much as you let yourself. And there is even more content coming! Everyone can play this game and have a good time if they let themselves.

[Zkieve]

what type of casual you assuming i mean. You can have progressive content anyone can access to do that "is a time sink" with out being to long or "long to get". like bcnms where challenging but not that long to do.
cop wasn't that long to do either minus promy. Fights do not need to be 5+ hours long to be "hardcore" just make the fight hard.

I call casual those like you who dont care at all for efficiency and being the best at your role in a party.
I call a hardcore a person who plays efficiently and that plays to be the best he can in every situation.

I dont care a peanut how you decide to play as long as you dont force me or anyone else to play like you, or in contrast to leach my exp or items with your casual play.Find people who play like you and enjoy the game your way.I like enjoying it my way.There is plenty of people and play styles to chooce from , and you are so wrong to be anti -elitist (or hardcore) as anyone you complain about being anti casual.

Time have nothing to do for both terms in my book.

[Nero]

Casuals paid for the game exactly as much as the hardcore. Like it or not.

No.. Hardcore Players pay way more with something you would call "Time"..

Just paying the same fee, doesnt mean they put the same effort into something. A LS would never give an Item to a guy which just pops once a month over a guy who come to every Event.

[Cendres]

Someone who pops in once a month isn't a casual player, they are barely playing the game. Casual players log in often for short periods of time, that is what isn't being communicated well enough.

[Abriael]

No.. Hardcore Players pay way more with something you would call "Time"..

Which has absolutely no value in any currency market. Sorry mate. Games are not a job.

[Dreamer]

Which has absolutely no value in any currency market. Sorry mate. Games are not a job.

Quoting, and bolding, for emphasis.

[Eldaena]

Which has absolutely no value in any currency market. Sorry mate. Games are not a job.

What are you talking about? Time is money, man. =p Without people that keep coming back to play the game and spend their time doing it no one is making any money and no one is having any fun.

Edit: Also, don't let any devs hear you saying a 'game' is not a job.

[Jinrya-Geki]

Oi this topic should be locked. Just an infuriating thing to read.

[Randis]

The growing entitlement issues of people who spend too much time in-game

[Abriael]

What are you talking about? Time is money, man. =p Without people that keep coming back to play the game and spend their time doing it no one is making any money and no one is having any fun.

The devs don't make any more money if you spend 50 hours a week on the game instead of 20.

Whether you're hardcore or casual, hard cash paid for the game is the same. You're entitled to have access to exactly the same content.