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  1. #381
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    Avatar de Soulfire
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    Maki Amiyuki
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    Masamune
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    Pêcheur Lv 60
    Citation Envoyé par Kiroh Voir le message
    That you define cold-heartedness as someone calling you uniformed but believe that saying two people who love each other wanting to be married is morally unjustified debauchery is perfectly acceptable speaks volumes to me about what exactly you are, and an enigma it is not.
    I wasn't calling you coldhearted. That part was concerning treatment to gay people, as in just because something they do is disagreeable doesn't give one the right to treat them so discourteously.
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  2. #382
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    Avatar de Shougun
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Balmung
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    Want to bump a few things I liked / maybe remix..

    1. Name
    This is FFXIV this is not "in real life" - they dont have marriage like we do (unless we force them to, which would be silly since they arent us). Without arguing the origins of marriage (because that could be a fun unrelated topic in itself) FFXIV needs to make its own origins and it needs its own laws and formalities as already has its own gods.

    Give it a different damn name so people cant cry as easy (they always will cry but the less zealous wont notice / or care as it isn't specifically referring to marriage since it will be a different union - and i mean crying in both directions (homosexuals and anti-homosexuals)).

    2. Options
    I want to make a brotherhood - specially if they add benefits to do so (and while I wouldn't die at a wedding theme, It would be fun to see other theme options that seal the binding - but dont exclude a wedding theme for same sexes). I love someone talking about making it a gil sink - obviously less then housing.

    Could go crazy and make different tiers of binding (Soul bound singular binding, blood bound multiple, and then you have free companies and linkshells as lesser bounds). - Adding too many levels of social casting could turn into a more elitist community though.. would have to be well thought of - an MMORPG community, unless you are playing EVE or other cut throat(y) games, should always feel welcoming.

    3.
    There are a lot of males choosing female characters and a lot of females that choose female characters.. lol For those who actually wanted to do it "straight" its pretty damn impossible unless everyone in their one time race choice makes sure they match up (and that is if they knew each other in the first place to meet up).



    Regardless of what happens benefits would have to be carefully chosen to be fun and relevant whilst not being over powered and "required" to play well.
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    Dernière modification de Shougun, 12/11/2012 à 17h16

  3. #383
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    Avatar de Soulfire
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    Maki Amiyuki
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    Masamune
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    Pêcheur Lv 60
    Citation Envoyé par Shougun Voir le message
    Regardless of what happens benefits would have to be carefully chosen to be fun and relevant whilst not being over powered and "required" to play well.
    I'm pretty sure I read either a dev post or something in an interview saying there wouldn't be benefits, but I haven't had luck with searches finding it again.
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  4. #384
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    Citation Envoyé par Soulfire Voir le message
    I'm pretty sure I read either a dev post or something in an interview saying there wouldn't be benefits, but I haven't had luck with searches finding it again.
    Oh well that makes it not over powered :P lol. I'd believe there were no benefits - I'm pretty sure that's how they did it in FFXI.

    I only thought perhaps this time was the exception as Yoshi seems to push into the new.
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  5. #385
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    Maki Amiyuki
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    Masamune
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    Pêcheur Lv 60
    Citation Envoyé par Shougun Voir le message
    Oh well that makes it not over powered :P lol. I'd believe there were no benefits - I'm pretty sure that's how they did it in FFXI.

    I only thought perhaps this time was the exception as Yoshi seems to push into the new.
    It was a long time back, so we'll see.
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  6. #386
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    Avatar de Vilhem
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    Vilhem Dijkstra
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    Balmung
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    I agree there are a lot of guys playing female characters, especially cats. It was even a running joke in XI how you couldn't trust mithra because more often than not they turned out to be "manthra".

    And I also think that they should ad SSM from the beginning, but not really announce it with all the fanfare they do for other things. Just say something like "Couples can now get married in this cathedral" without even having to mention the SSM part.

    If they add it later, they'd have to do some kind of announcement of the adjustment, or nobody will realize it's been implemented. Then that's where the "fun" would begin.
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  7. #387
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    Faris Leonhart
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcaniste Lv 61
    I don't mind this idea (pact of friendship) but i feel disgusted whenever i hear this same-sex marriage honestly :3 in real life or game .

    pact of friendship can be with more people~ maybe 3 or 4 .
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    Dernière modification de Kona4me, 12/11/2012 à 17h29

  8. #388
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    Azarim Erro
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    Hyperion
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    Maître d'hast Lv 70
    Citation Envoyé par Kona4me Voir le message
    I don't mind this idea (pact of friendship) but i feel disgusted whenever i hear this same-sex marriage honestly :3 in real life or game .
    Then lets not call it marriage. A union. An allegiance. A pact. A bonding. BFFs. Just a small event to represent the depth of your relationship and love (not necessarily romantic) you have for someone else. Is that too disgusting for you?
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  9. #389
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    Citation Envoyé par whoopeeragon Voir le message
    Then lets not call it marriage. A union. An allegiance. A pact. A bonding. BFFs. Just a small event to represent the depth of your relationship and love (not necessarily romantic) you have for someone else. Is that too disgusting for you?
    Reminds me of that whole "I hate homophobia. You don't have a phobia, you are not scared, you are an asshole." thing.
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  10. #390
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    Avatar de Kona4me
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    Faris Leonhart
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcaniste Lv 61
    Citation Envoyé par whoopeeragon Voir le message
    Then lets not call it marriage. A union. An allegiance. A pact. A bonding. BFFs. Just a small event to represent the depth of your relationship and love (not necessarily romantic) you have for someone else. Is that too disgusting for you?
    That would be great :3 .
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