Matsume: the only issue I see with your major post is that you think my comment about 'don't use it' is specifically directed at him. It was meant toward anyone who's against it. What's weird is I went back to find the spacing of everything to see if it could be taken as directed at him, and all I found was two posts by me, one after the other. Maybe he wrote something that was in between those, but it's gone now... but if it was deleted, wouldn't it still show his name and nothing else as a 'place-holder' that something was once there? As far as I can tell, my comment about 'if you don't like it, don't use it' wasn't even on the same page as something Rokien said.
Anyway, my next comment to him was after he quoted me and called my argument stupid, and it 'pisses him off when people do that'. I already sensed that tension you mentioned. Although I quoted what he said to me, I was directly annoyed by what he posted just above what I wrote next. "If they would do the power of collective knowledge they would have just done what they did in XIII, go to a cliff and press X. There, you get your stupid jumping, and I don't have to deal with your stupid jumping."
He is saying that because he doesn't like jumping, it should not be included, and instead, there should be a command to climb up a cliff to 'keep us satisfied'. Of course, it's all in how you say things -- and while I am not innocent of this, neither is he. His response to the person above me is one of my examples of how he is not nice to others in the thread. He said something in a rude way ("I don't have to deal with your stupid jumping"), when he could have just said it in a nice way.
Next, I get annoyed with him, as quoted, and mention that jumping could be used as a utility in fights to make them more interesting. (I have personally played MMO's where jumping is required for certain fights, and people don't just jump around like idiots endlessly. There's always the select few, but they are the exception, not the rule. What makes jumping any more or less annoying that the person that runs around in circles waiting for an event to start?)
After his next comment: "Welp, guess I wont beable to do those fights, because just like the goobuu, I'm never using the jump system. This is NOT AN ACTION MMO, THERE IS NO NEED FOR JUMP, JUMP IS STUPID." I began to get playful, insinuating that I was going to find him and jump next to him, but not before telling him that trying to boycott the game because 'jumping is stupid' is silly. That's why I mentioned that if jumping is needed, I will find him and call him out on using jumping, because I know he won't stop playing the game or doing instances because he needs to jump. I dislike empty threats and people that swear they will "QUIT THE GAME IF [X happens]." He didn't say he'd quit, but be basically said he wouldn't do anything that involved it, even if it was endgame or important.
Perhaps this is an assumption on my part... but then he says to someone else in response to the question "Will goobbues be able to jump?" ... "I will not play this game if it does. No matter how cool this game is, if they added that to goobuu, I will not play. At all." There you go. He will quit the game if goobbues are given jump, which is likely, considering they have shown chocobos jumping. (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=LM6bi4RP25o#! Go to about 7 minutes in...) Will he quit?
The next comments between us were playful, and I wasn't taking any of it personally. I just wanted to call him out on his empty threats. The part about a party 'shaming' him for not jumping is also a play on the fact that I think he'll cave and use jump if he has to. As far as me saying I'll 'find' him and jump next to him... I understand I said it, and I understand that I should have weighted my words more carefully considering there are some crazy people in MMO's, but I honestly wouldn't waste my time coming to annoy him. It was my way of finding it hilarious how dead-set against jumping he was, that it WOULD annoy him if people merely jumped near him. Keep in mind that I wasn't the only one that said I would jump next to people who didn't like jump -- there were several others who specifically said that. I'm not alone in this.
Perhaps the 'my standards are too high' was below the belt. This is where I really think it became less about interpretation and more about bluntness. I'll concede on this. What I meant to imply was I wasn't attracted to someone who is so dead-set against new things, and will refuse to use them, even if it betters the game. I consider this ignorant, but I didn't want to outwardly insult him... so I said my standards are too high. I didn't expect him to take it so personally, as I wouldn't... because this is a forum... but he did.
I can tell I ruffled his feathers with that comment because of the fact that he first started out saying 'so are mine' but then quickly edited it to say something he thought was more offensive. And then we got into it. I thought him editing his comment was funny because he was seriously pissed off at me over something so little.
As far as his comment about me being single... I wasn't offended by this, and didn't take it personally, because as I said... it's not true, and we're on a forum. I was, however, curious as to how he came to this conclusion. If he had called me a jerk, or any other name in the book, it would have made sense, because according to him I was being a jerk... but how could you make the assumption that someone is single, or even that being single is something to be ashamed of? I think "I can smell your pheromones from here" is a bit more severe than "My standards are too high." My comment was also preceded by the fact that he wouldn't jump with me, staying on topic.
I don't think either of us is more guilty than the other, but because you see him as a friend, and me as some random person you don't speak to, you are going to empathize with his side more. This is just how it is. The reason I see him as being a bit worse than I is because I haven't insulted anyone else on this thread, or quoted someone and told them their argument was stupid. I also haven't told anyone that what they like is stupid. I also haven't refused to adapt to changes in a game because I think they're stupid. The difference between us is that I haven't offended anyone else, ever, on these forums... but I can tell from what others are saying in this thread that he has offended quite a few.
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