Marriage feedback [inofficial Poll]

[Kuzak]

The devs should be focusing on gameplay and designing end-game content. Get you priorities straight. I swear, you idiots ruin everything.

[kazaran]

Keep in mind this is Final Fantasy. Not Real life. THe Twelve have no issue with it. Actually there is same gender love mentioned throughout npc's.

Real life religious ideals, personal feelings, are irrelevant in Erozea. Hate the Galeans no others in the game.

Takes very little to alter code to allow it. It's not an issue pof priorty since in character coding, it takes more to block the ring trade and character scripting between sexes, then it does to not.

[Kyri]

That's so cute, I mean why would marriage be part of a MMORPG lore. lol..
You want better instances, a delievery box, a auction house. Some people want to be married. Your priorities are not their priorities nor are they more important.

[KiriA500]

I don't care about being able to get married in game, because I remember how the process was with FFXI. Screw that nonsense.

I'd just like to personally thank Square-Enix for reminding me that even in a made up world, homosexuality is a problem. Nothing brings me more joy than being reminded I'm different, and what I'm not allowed to do because of it.

[Catwho]

In FFXI my character was "engaged" to someone else's character.... Both of us are married women in real life. It was just role playing. (She played a boy Tarutaru named TheCheat and her actual husband played a Galka named Trogdor.)

The only reason we never went through the official wedding was cuz she dumped me for WoW (hehehe.)

I like the idea of everyone having unions instead of calling it marriage. Leave "marriage" as a real life religious ceremony, but give some acknowledgement to the unique bonds that people of any gender can develop with each other.

[Azurymber]

I dont think a poll is appropriate for this topic. The fragility of the topic goes beyond this simple game, it could negatively affect the company and it's brands if mishandled.

There is no such thing as fragility of a topic when it comes to people's rights.

Claiming this subject is sensitive or a big issue is like saying we can't talk about genocide or slavery because the nazi's or kkk might get upset by it.

There is a simple truth here
If you allow it, people will be happy WITHOUT affecting anyone else
If you don't allow it, a lot of people will be hurt or offended and it will be promoting discrimination

that simple.

Marriage isn't supposed to be between a mithra and a galka either, so gender should -not- even be an issue in this game.

[Neko-Kun]

I'd just like to personally thank Square-Enix for reminding me that even in a made up world, homosexuality is a problem. Nothing brings me more joy than being reminded I'm different, and what I'm not allowed to do because of it.

I've never been one to post a whole lot on community forums, but I really felt the need to say something on this topic.

KiriA500, I know how you feel buddy. I was actually really worried about reading through this thread, for fear of hateful messages from nasty people. But now I'm sitting here, feeling tearful, totally blown away by the amount of support for equality, and the maturity of all the people posting. Even if SE doesn't change their minds, I'm just so happy knowing that there is still a supportive community out there.

It may not seem like much of an issue to most people, but for a few of us, this is a something that cuts straight to our hearts.

Thank you all so much ;_;

[Delsus]

I wouldn't take advantage of the marriage facility and wouldn't care if there was no marriage facility at all.
BUT.
Not allowing same gender marriage is discrimination. Discrimination should be fought wherever it is. Allowing discrimination to continue in one part of culture makes it seem more acceptable in others.

Whilst I do agree with you there are many cultures still that will not allow it irl, for example Christians see homosexuality as a sin, if these people knew their child was homosexual they may disown them, or worse. Now imagine these people's parents finding out the married someone of the same sex in game, they could think the player is homosexual because of it, or say that the game is encouraging homosexuality. As someone has said you have seen how some people thing games like GTA is turning all our kids into gun toting murderers/drink drivers/gangsters etc.

If FFXIV got this stigma of encouraging homosexuality it could give SE a bad name, etc. They need to tread carefully to add it, which I personally hope they do. It's not a matter of morality it's a matter of how they want everyone to see SE as a whole.

[KamikazeMan]

I personally don't care for gay sex marriage and don't see why it bothers anybody. Though SE will upset people either way. IMO, SE should do all or nothing - include gay sex marriage or just don't include the system at all.

[Azurymber]

Whilst I do agree with you there are many cultures still that will not allow it irl, for example Christians see homosexuality as a sin, if these people knew their child was homosexual they may disown them, or worse. Now imagine these people's parents finding out the married someone of the same sex in game, they could think the player is homosexual because of it, or say that the game is encouraging homosexuality. As someone has said you have seen how some people thing games like GTA is turning all our kids into gun toting murderers/drink drivers/gangsters etc.

If FFXIV got this stigma of encouraging homosexuality it could give SE a bad name, etc. They need to tread carefully to add it, which I personally hope they do. It's not a matter of morality it's a matter of how they want everyone to see SE as a whole.

This is like saying if you had a game where a jewish character was the hero, you would stigmatize the game with neo-nazis.

I get your point. But the more important point is that it is completely unethical to take people who discriminate into consideration.

Just because a group of people don't support equality of the right for people to be who they are and be happy, does not mean game companies should go out of their way to please them.

And the argument that marriage is for a man and woman only is just a veiled hate argument.
If I'm athiest I can go get married to a Satanist, denounce god, do a bunch of sinful stuff, but it will still be ok if i'm a boy and shes a girl. But if 2 men or 2 women want to get married who go to church every sunday and believe in god (and tons of churches are totally fine with them getting married) then it is somehow the end of the world.