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  1. #91
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    I don't buy the idea that Louie is a traitor, You're conveniently forgetting some key points in the cs:

    First, he tried to seal Bahamut again, if he wanted to free him, why would he attempt this?

    Second, He sent us all five years into the future, (at the cost of his own life no less) if he had malevolent intentions, wouldn't it make more sense to let us die in the apocalypse? After all, he already knew we were capable of slaying primals, who were figuratively gods themselves. Why risk that we would upset his plans by sparing us?

    Third, praying had benificial effects in the final event, showing the twelve were present. Louisoix sent us on a pilgrimage to seek thier aid. In effect, he showed us how to aquire the power we needed to oppose the empire. Again, Why help us if he was going to stab our backs in the end?
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    Alerith Rayneheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard319 View Post
    I don't buy the idea that Louie is a traitor, You're conveniently forgetting some key points in the cs:

    First, he tried to seal Bahamut again, if he wanted to free him, why would he attempt this?

    Second, He sent us all five years into the future, (at the cost of his own life no less) if he had malevolent intentions, wouldn't it make more sense to let us die in the apocalypse? After all, he already knew we were capable of slaying primals, who were figuratively gods themselves. Why risk that we would upset his plans by sparing us?

    Third, praying had benificial effects in the final event, showing the twelve were present. Louisoix sent us on a pilgrimage to seek thier aid. In effect, he showed us how to aquire the power we needed to oppose the empire. Again, Why help us if he was going to stab our backs in the end?
    Please check the date of the OP and try again.
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  3. #93
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    I keep seeing the starshowers mentioned, but I don't think those had anything to do with Dalamud at all.

    Ifrit says that there can only be one true God and he expects it to be him (Garuda says the same). I'm thinking that based on aether distribution, different beings can become the most powerful of the time - Midgardsormr's death ended his monopoly and opened the realm to the return of the others.

    However, in the Limsa storyline, the starshower ends up being the entry point for an ascian-aligned character that steals the key (a horn).

    I think it's part of a different storyline, possibly linked to OUR primal (whom I currently believe to be Siren) and whatever this games interpretation of Raknarok will be.
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  4. #94
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    The more and more the story progresses, the more I think our Primal is Alexander.

    I know that there was this storyline in place before The 7th Umbral storyline, but if Yoshida's development team is gonna play off the 1.0 7th Umbral for ARR's storyline (which they obviously are), I think Alexander is the perfect anti-thesis to Bahamut, and is the Primal that us humanoids "have."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alerith View Post
    The more and more the story progresses, the more I think our Primal is Alexander.

    I know that there was this storyline in place before The 7th Umbral storyline, but if Yoshida's development team is gonna play off the 1.0 7th Umbral for ARR's storyline (which they obviously are), I think Alexander is the perfect anti-thesis to Bahamut, and is the Primal that us humanoids "have."
    That could be, as well. From a previous experience stance, Alexander makes the most sense. Again, in-game clues make me think Siren, but historically, I think you're onto something.
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