Legacy Beta

[Punainen]

I know that we won't get priority, but I'm pretty sure Yoshida stated he wanted to get 'current' players into it. It's a silly move.

Its not silly. Beta is not a trial period, beta is a TESTING phase. Current players have a perspective that new players don't have. Current players will be able to go "WOAH, wait! I liked the way this was before, change it back!", where as new players wont know the difference.
Its not an advertising period to bring in new players... IT IS A TESTING PHASE!! I'm shocked at how many people don't know this.

[Skies]

Its not silly. Beta is not a trial period, beta is a TESTING phase. Current players have a perspective that new players don't have. Current players will be able to go "WOAH, wait! I liked the way this was before, change it back!", where as new players wont know the difference.
Its not an advertising period to bring in new players... IT IS A TESTING PHASE!! I'm shocked at how many people don't know this.

Gaming culture has grown to believe that open beta testing is actually an advertising/free trial period. I'm... I'm not sure why when there is a clear definition of the word, but.

[Rustyhagun]

Eh, using current members to test is a smart move. I'd be willing to bet that 80% of the players stayed around because of A Realm Reborn. Letting them test the game that enticed them to stick around makes more sense than just letting total strangers test it, as they won't have a ground to base their feedback off of. Current players know how the game works, and can give proper analysis on stuff like UI responsiveness, battle mechanics, etc.

We are the ones that know how the game needs to be.. sure allow newbies into the fold, but the veteran players are the ones that are gonna give the most incite to feedback, and bug writeup.

[Cendres]

Good thing the point of a beta is to help test the game and not a "FREE EARLY ACCESS SEE IF YOU LIKE IT" sort of deal.

Hmmm yeah, why not invite legacy first? They are the ones who are more invested in this game then anyone else and less likely to use beta as a free trial and be there to actually help SE.

But Yoshida seems to have been around the block enough times to make the right call on this. So I trust whatever he decides. (Can't believe I actually said that....)

[Punainen]

Gaming culture has grown to believe that open beta testing is actually an advertising/free trial period. I'm... I'm not sure why when there is a clear definition of the word, but.

Its because most NA gaming culture could care less about testing and all they wanna do is play it before everyone else.

[Shougun]

Its because most NA gaming culture could care less about testing and all they wanna do is play it before everyone else.

Or.... because that is really what is going on. (Open beta)

Its not -just- about testing, I dont think it ever was once the idea of "open beta" was born naught from having not enough applications but just for the sake of it.

[Huginn]

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[Ingolf]

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Please stop posting in this thread.

"If I disagree it's trolling"

Ok chief.

[NefarioCall]

This whole argument is only relevant if there are more beta applications than there is space for players in the Beta.

[Majidah]

I like how 85% the people make up percentages.

I do, however, agree legacy members should get priority.