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    Quote Originally Posted by Xatsh View Post
    Most people who have characters at endgame I see quitting if SE did this. We played this game with a massive lack of content for over 2yrs... SE gets no more time, new game or not... they must have a large endgame and everything else at launch and in constant updates.

    This is a unique situation but SE has no choice, they must do both. If they do not have a big enough staff they need to hire more. Atm this game is considered crap, if the game releases with no/little content (endgame is what keeps ppl playing) the game will remain crap no matter what other changes SE does.

    I think it is only fair us as gamers we give SE no time after launch to get the game right, they had 2 yrs.

    SE has no choice they must have a lot of endgame, alot of mid game, and alot of early game.... or all of us on this forum better start looking for a new mmo. Updates must address all areas of the game not just early game.
    I semi agree but I would be willing to give them one more year so as long as they have some content and hopefully pvp at launch I will be perfectly content because I know there is several things that will come in subsequent patches after launch. A lot of old content is being rehashed and redone and hopefully with new rewards.
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    Gamescom 2012: Our Interview with Naoki Yoshida
    JPGames-Frederick: There was much talk about planned content for Final Fantasy XIV 2.0, which content will be there right from the start and which will be implemented later? I’m talking about content such as PvP, Crystal Tower, free companies, free companies housing, chocobo breeding system etc.

    Yoshida: About the Crystal Tower and the chocobo-racing and the free companies, we cannot have this right at the launch, about PvP … we hope to have it at launch but because of all the balancing issues and with me being a hardcore PvP-player we want to make it perfect before releasing. We might have to keep adjusting and because of that we might not make it in time but if that is the case we hope to have it at the latest within a few months after launch and hopefully at the launch. The same thing goes for the housing system, but we hope to have that very soon after launch as well.
    I hope PvP makes it in right away, but if not, it should be soon there after. I dont think we will have to wait for an expansion to be able to PvP. i hope the same goes for the housing system. The golden saucer, i can wait for an expansion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KoujiGeki View Post
    Yes cause there is a difference between parting and questing, atleast to me it is FAR more fun to party with people even standing in a spot for hours, than doing a boring quest with crap rewards for in most games, Killing maybe slightly weaker mobs while camping is usually faster XP than killing quest mobs that give a set amount of xp. Now if you played 11 which i will assume you did name a quest item that was actually useful, over Mission item, Dropped NM items or Crafted items. Thought i will trow out there that i did LOVE the Dream boots and treat staff 2. And once again standing there in natalan was ALOT funner than doing that FUCKING escort mission in Girdania.
    Who says you have to do them solo? You do quest in parties...quest in xi did not work like any other mmo's most of them were there for small side stories if it even had that or some crappy reward. Most people did not bother with quest in XI unless it gave some type of Good reward.

    The only reason people even did quest in XI if it had some type of good reward like the star onions quest, which people only did for the brd neck piece.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralliare View Post
    We already know SE's first things to concentrate on will be ACN and SMN, then they need to for fill their DX11 promise. They're going to have loads of balancing work and tweaks.

    If they planned everything right they should have the crystal tower for endgame and be unlocking new levels constantly for the endgame.
    SE's first priority, actually, is getting the game stable enough through alpha so it can actually go into beta, and through beta they should stabilize it even more and make it as hardware-scaling as they want it to be, so then it can get a successful release and actually have customers. Making the engine the best they can is their top priority - if it's another shitty engine, we won't see FFXIV 2.0 for very long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    Who says you have to do them solo? You do quest in parties...quest in xi did not work like any other mmo's most of them were there for small side stories if it even had that or some crappy reward. Most people did not bother with quest in XI unless it gave some type of Good reward.

    The only reason people even did quest in XI if it had some type of good reward like the star onions quest, which people only did for the brd neck piece.
    You can't add quest for leveling purposes and make them groupquests, most ppl will whine cause they can't solo. I doubt more then 5% of those quests will need more then 1 person to finish them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moriandrio View Post
    You can't add quest for leveling purposes and make them groupquests, most ppl will whine cause they can't solo. I doubt more then 5% of those quests will need more then 1 person to finish them.
    No one said they was party driven, just stated you an do them in parties....
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    If they're smart, they'll make a pile of soloable quests, enough to last 2-3 classes alone. If you throw in a few dungeons and some grind parties you can stretch content out to maybe 3-4 classes. logic would be give enough content to take 2-4 classes to endgame. At that point point they would to have you hooked to the point you wouldnt mind grinding, or leveling via dungeon to get remaining classes to endgame.
    What if they add more classes/jobs? pretty easily answered, they just add more quests. Plus they already said leve quests would remain, so right there you have a steady supply of xp in addition to behests. I don't think they're dumb enough to let things suck ass a second tine around, Id be willing to bet lessons have been learned. Plus its SE. As much as we all have a few whiney gripes (me included) about them going all the way back to early FF titles up to the MMO titles, they aren't exactly a low end, crank out as much BS as you can and sell it gaming company. They have a legacy of what? 3 decades now? None of us may like 100% of where Yoshi P is taking us, but you gotta admit it looks better than where we are now. With a sufficient release and some substantial updates we may have on our hands a damn good MMO worthy of SE/Final Fantasy label. Sit tite and see what comes about. If it sucks, by all means, launch the ballistic missiles and storm their HQ. Ill be there with you handing out sticks of TNT and matches.
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    Ppl that want to exp through grinding will have dungeons to do so except they wont be just caves..there will be buildings like towers or castles upside down that will be called dungeons see all those mobs you now make *poof* in AV and darkhold? imagine all the exp you would get by killing them all that's why Yoshi-P is getting rid of "speed run" and dungeons will be 3 times bigger atleast so yeah plenty to grind and exp on ...combined with the sync lvl ppl will be able to spirit bond in the lvl 30-40 dungeons and 40-50 dungeons
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlock View Post
    Ppl that want to exp through grinding will have dungeons to do so except they wont be just caves..there will be buildings like towers or castles upside down that will be called dungeons see all those mobs you now make *poof* in AV and darkhold? imagine all the exp you would get by killing them all that's why Yoshi-P is getting rid of "speed run" and dungeons will be 3 times bigger atleast so yeah plenty to grind and exp on ...combined with the sync lvl ppl will be able to spirit bond in the lvl 30-40 dungeons and 40-50 dungeons
    well said wee man!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Some people won't have the slightest idea of realism, and will bitch because SE will allegedly be caring about the other group more than them (whatever SE does).

    But that's ok, we all know that realism has very little footing in the current MMORPG playerbase, and especially on this forum, where the same people do nothing else than complaining all the damn time.

    People that burned themselves out to bring ALL the jobs at 50, will have to realize that they are a *vastly* outnumbered minority.

    PS: Just as a little detail, you won't have all the jobs at 50 come ARR, no matter what.
    Your little post-script there at the end confuses me. What makes you think that people who have everything at 50 now wont have it at 50 when ARR launches? Just saying....the only thing theyre adding is Arcanist. Oh man. Just one measly DOM class to level to 50 and then boop...back to capped all again. They arent going to magically take away any of your levels when ARR launches and I dearly hope you arent under the impression that they're going to.
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