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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikki View Post
    1/6 raid bosses does it and Ifrit Extreme does it. In both of those fights, hate isn't hard at all to get back because they're party-wide resets. Stronghold bosses don't do it. Darnus doesn't do it. It's not present in any relic faction leves. I really don't think it's as overused as you say.
    That's still a lot more than in any other MMORPG, and simply too much. And when it happens, it simply makes the fight not fun to tank. "not hard at all to get back?" I don't think so.

    There's a reason why every other developer uses it much less, and when it's used it's also much easier to counter. And that's because, as it is implemented in FFXIV, and with this kind of frequency, it's more a chore than any fun.

    I'm aware that there are a few vocal elitists that think tanking should be an absolutely unfun chore reserved only to demigods with all double/triple melds and the very top gear that can be found by grinding the game for two years. But I'm quite sure this kind of attitude isn't gonna carry A Realm Reborn very far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    That's still a lot more than in any other MMORPG, and simply too much. And when it happens, it simply makes the fight not fun to tank. "not hard at all to get back?" I don't think so.

    There's a reason why every other developer uses it much less, and when it's used it's also much easier to counter. And that's because, as it is implemented in FFXIV, and with this kind of frequency, it's more a chore than any fun.
    Party-wide resets aren't really hard to get back at all, you just keep enough burst-enmity off cooldown to pick it back up right away. I also don't think it's too much to ask for damage dealers to be able to spot hate resets and temporarily hold back. I don't see how it's a chore at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikki View Post
    Party-wide resets aren't really hard to get back at all, you just keep enough burst-enmity off cooldown to pick it back up right away. I also don't think it's too much to ask for damage dealers to be able to spot hate resets and temporarily hold back. I don't see how it's a chore at all.
    You mean in a game in which beating down the boss as fast as humanly possible (which is also the very opposite of fun) is the only way to get decent rewards? Why yes, for a lot of people that is too much to ask.
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