The growing entitlement issues of the casuals

[Akumu]

Akumu, If you like you can check out the "Please remove surplus sp" thread. There is a statement from Yoshi-P concerning the removal of surplus sp. I will glad to see this change. I hope it is soon.

I read the post and I am happy to know Yoshi-P feels the same. It should be the player's choice to choose his/her play style and not be limited because of it.

[AlexiaKidd]

Ok I got the solution to this problem right here. For the Hardcore SE can make an NM that has a respawn window of 36 hours. Then the NM also has 10,000,000HP and take roughly 24 hours to take down so it's super hard. The reward for taking down the NM is you get 1 shiny coin. When you have 100 shiny coins you can trade them to an NPC along with an item of your choice and that item will then become a +4 item.

As a casual player I would not have a problem with the hardcore players doing something like that, because frankly anyone who could pull it off would definitely deserve there +4 Tricorn.

[Atomsk]

Ok I got the solution to this problem right here. For the Hardcore SE can make an NM that has a respawn window of 36 hours. Then the NM also has 10,000,000HP and take roughly 24 hours to take down so it's super hard. The reward for taking down the NM is you get 1 shiny coin. When you have 100 shiny coins you can trade them to an NPC along with an item of your choice and that item will then become a +4 item.

As a casual player I would not have a problem with the hardcore players doing something like that, because frankly anyone who could pull it off would definitely deserve there +4 Tricorn.

Make it a +5. They need that ego boost to last them til their next upgrade.

[Cendres]

As long as the Tricorn doesn't become an item that the community decides is a MUST have item for so and so class. That was a large 'problem' and source of frustration in XI. Let's not do it again. :S I personally never had gear envy, but I didn't like being pressured to get stuff I'd have to spend all my gil on or have to sit for hours to get alternatively. Really it's not the fact that these things are there that is the problem but that we require a certain status quo to be relevant.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

I'm not sure I get your point.

If you're referring to NM spawning time, I agree that it was ridiculous in XI, XIV is not like that, that's good. Camping a NM is a waste of time, but working on long term goals is not.

because it took time for everyone, but everyone had access to it. Get it, everyone had access. The "hardcore" what stuff that casuals can't access. And that is what is wrong. They want time sink events stuff that takes 5+ to do. We don;t need or want that. Everyone pays with the same money, everyone buys the game with the same money, everyone should get access to 100% of the content they want, not 20% because of time issues.

[AlexiaKidd]

As long as the Tricorn doesn't become an item that the community decides is a MUST have item for so and so class. That was a large 'problem' and source of frustration in XI. Let's not do it again. :S I personally never had gear envy, but I didn't like being pressured to get stuff I'd have to spend all my gil on or have to sit for hours to get alternatively. Really it's not the fact that these things are there that is the problem but that we require a certain status quo to be relevant.

Hey I'm sorry but +5 Tricorn or GTFO ^^

[Cendres]

Hey I'm sorry but +5 Tricorn or GTFO ^^

/em cries in the corner *whimper*
ROFL.... ^^

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Wasn't CoP gimped because casuals complained about difficulty?

no ppl only wanted to do it once because of the level cap was insanbe. Everytime you asked for help ppl would refuse. They took out the caps so ppl would be more willing to redo it.

this casual hate really needs to stop. stop putting silly lables on others and using it to degreade them.

the only thing i see here is players who are snobs looking for entiltment. Who think their game, let me repeat that, GAME fee is more importent and thus need content only they can do because they feel awesome. Sorry but content like that is what killed ffxi. And all SE is trying to do is make things more accessable which it shoulda been like.

You think these casuals as you call them choose bnot to play for a long duration when that isn't the case.

Also I find it hard to take people seriously when they care too much for game items.

[Neptune]

Well the minority that live in their parents basement aren't really part of society to begin with, you actually have to leave the house to do that :P

There's something outside my parent's basement?

[Kilta_Firelotus]

It was just CoP.

They actually nerfed it 2-3 times, the first time made it so most went from maby 40+ tries to 5-10. The final nerf made every fight uncapped, most jobs can solo tenzen.

Massive casuals begged for "easy mode", there ya go.

get over yourself you know that isn't true

and theV i'm sorry but you know that isn't true

you guys are just using the cop changes as ammo. Not cool. What really happen is NO ONE could really beatr the missions. The people only did them with set groups. No matter who you were if you wasn't in a group you couldn't do it. No one helped with those fights after they beat them.

When cop came out I did have tons of time to play, and I still couldn't do cop. I either didn't have the right job or gear. I got sea access in either december or januray just recently because more ppl were willing to help with them.

And I was happy I could solo some of my sea missions, I wasn't that great of a solo'er. And I was far from a casual player.