New Job System Incoming!!! - But what does this mean??

[Jericho]

I don't agree that a gladiator is a "sword user" and an archer is a "bow user", regardless of what the translations say or what those words "mean". My job is an archer, and I am limited to bows. The level of my job determines my skills and hp and mp and def and eva and acc and everything else that makes you able to hold your own in a higher setting. In a literal sense, how well I use a bow should have nothing to do with my hp. I don't want to feel like I'm leveling up weapons. That doesn't feel like FF to me. I want to level up jobs, and use weapons, whether I am limited in my weapon selection or i have every weapon available. It just doesn't feel right.

[Cairdeas]

I don't agree that a gladiator is a "sword user" and an archer is a "bow user", regardless of what the translations say or what those words "mean". My job is an archer, and I am limited to bows. The level of my job determines my skills and hp and mp and def and eva and acc and everything else that makes you able to hold your own in a higher setting. In a literal sense, how well I use a bow should have nothing to do with my hp. I don't want to feel like I'm leveling up weapons. That doesn't feel like FF to me. I want to level up jobs, and use weapons, whether I am limited in my weapon selection or i have every weapon available. It just doesn't feel right.

Inversely Rangers are not limited to bows, Guns, crossbows, or throwing weapons though.

[Jericho]

Inversely Rangers are not limited to bows, Guns, crossbows, or throwing weapons though.

They are not traditionally. But it wouldn't bother me or, eventually, what I speculate as the majority of everyone else who plans on using a bow as a ranger.

[Cairdeas]

They are not traditionally. But it wouldn't bother me or, eventually, what I speculate as the majority of everyone else who plans on using a bow as a ranger.

I always used guns and Xbows as ranger so if it was limited to bows. especially after a Crossbow or Gun Weapon class was Released, I'd be a little upset. I don't think we need a system that segregates one part of the Job system from one part of the Armoury System and instead they all can mesh in what ever pattern you want. Some might not be effective as others but thats up to the players to decide not the developer at that point.

[Jericho]

I always used guns and Xbows as ranger so if it was limited to bows. especially after a Crossbow or Gun Weapon class was Released, I'd be a little upset.

Okay, I'll bite. Where I have trouble with your system is feeling like the titles really don't mean much. A few ranks/abilities as time goes on... I want it to mean more than that, more than the weapon class does. A high ranking ranger should not have to start from black brush in order to start using a gun.

Okay, the more I'm talking about it the more I'm starting to feel it. Maybe it would be okay.

Of course, the decision has already been made.

[Cairdeas]

Okay, I'll bite. Where I have trouble with your system is feeling like the titles really don't mean much. A few ranks/abilities as time goes on... I want it to mean more than that, more than the weapon class does. A high ranking ranger should not have to start from black brush in order to start using a gun.

Okay, the more I'm talking about it the more I'm starting to feel it. Maybe it would be okay.

Of course, the decision has already been made.

You'd have to in XI.

If you were a Ranger who only leveled bow up to 30 then picked up a Gun you'd have to go back to low level areas to pick up the first few levels in it before you could use it in a party and skill it up properly. Its the same system essentially.