What 1.0 and Tanaka did good

[Rokien]

No the UI was bad, sucked balls for mouse and keyboard and it was bad for controller as well. The design was the problem even if bad coding made it worse.

How is he stuck in the past? Have you seen how those things are implemented? Can I see your crystal ball? This is a FINAL FANTASY MMO, bringing things from other FF games just makes sense.

Then we should say he is stuck in the past for bringing chocobos, for using Moogles, they were all in past FF games. We should also call every FF game with Cid and FF monsters in it to be stuck in the past.

Why would he implement something from the past then? Thats pretty stuck in the past if you ask me.

Why would he implement something from another game that's old, that's pretty much in the past if you ask me.

OH BUT IT'S OK if it's not ffxi, gotcha!

[Lirion]

Why would he implement something from the past then? Thats pretty stuck in the past if you ask me.

Why would he implement something from another game that's old, that's pretty much in the past if you ask me.

OH BUT IT'S OK if it's not ffxi, gotcha!

Who said anything about not bringing stuff from FFXI? I wouldn't mind if Sky/Sea came to FFXIV and what do you smoke exactly? The jobs are all from FFXI. Warrior, paladin, black mage, white mage and now he's bringing summoner.

Bringing content from past games and implementing them into the MMO world is not the same as making the game play like past games.

[Rokien]

Who said anything about not bringing stuff from FFXI? I wouldn't mind if Sky/Sea came to FFXIV and what do you smoke exactly? The jobs are all from FFXI. Warrior, paladin, black mage, white mage and now he's bringing summoner.

Bringing content from past games and implementing them into the MMO world is not the same as making the game play like past games.

and you say tanaka is living in the past LOL tanaka didn't have those things in 1.0, what are you smoking.

Tanaka brought us awesome nms, Yoshi gave us scrap nms just like EVERY mmo in the PAST.

And you talk about play, Yoshi is doing AA(auto attack) Talk about living in the past~

[Lirion]

and you say tanaka is living in the past LOL tanaka didn't have those things in 1.0, what are you smoking.

Tanaka brought us awesome nms, Yoshi gave us scrap nms just like EVERY mmo in the PAST.

And you talk about play, Yoshi is doing AA(auto attack) Talk about living in the past~

Yeah Tanaka brought us unbalanced classes and physical levels that made no sense at all.

What NM are you talking about exactly? There weren't even any at launch and when they came there were nothing amazing with them. You also have to understand that Yoshi decided to remake the game from the ground up, he had to really motivate the team to create stuff for this version knowing that it was all going to be deleted. This is not Yoshis game, he was just trying to keep it on lifesupport until ARR was ready. How many times have he said "Sorry, the limitations of the current engine...."?

And AA was added because the majority wanted it so blame that on the community and Yoshi for listening, but I guess he should only listen to you?

[Rokien]

Yeah Tanaka brought us unbalanced classes and physical levels that made no sense at all.

What NM are you talking about exactly? There weren't even any at launch and when they came there were nothing amazing with them. You also have to understand that Yoshi decided to remake the game from the ground up, he had to really motivate the team to create stuff for this version knowing that it was all going to be deleted. This is not Yoshis game, he was just trying to keep it on lifesupport until ARR was ready. How many times have he said "Sorry, the limitations of the current engine...."?

And AA was added because the majority wanted it so blame that on the community and Yoshi for listening, but I guess he should only listen to you?

I didn't say the game was ready at launch, I agree with that. I think tanaka was stupid to release the game as it was, but I'm not stupid enough to ignor the fact that if it was working as intended, it would have been a hit. And what nms? Oh, idk the big ones?

Also people don't know what they want, sure it sounds nice at first but when people play the final product and get tired of it with in months or a year, they will wish they said something different.

And AA is a terrible system that I did not want.

[Firon]

I didn't say the game was ready at launch, I agree with that. I think tanaka was stupid to release the game as it was, but I'm not stupid enough to ignor the fact that if it was working as intended, it would have been a hit. And what nms? Oh, idk the big ones?

Also people don't know what they want, sure it sounds nice at first but when people play the final product and get tired of it with in months or a year, they will wish they said something different.

And AA is a terrible system that I did not want.

There no nm's @ launch bro. Also most of don't care what you want.

[Lirion]

I didn't say the game was ready at launch, I agree with that. I think tanaka was stupid to release the game as it was, but I'm not stupid enough to ignor the fact that if it was working as intended, it would have been a hit. And what nms? Oh, idk the big ones?

How can it work as intended when it's not ready? And if it worked as intended it's even worse! It just shows that Tanakas design was bad.

To add to your people don't know what they want, you seem to know perfectly well what you want. Plenty of people know what they DON'T want and that is Tanakas FFXIV. If people wanted that they would have stayed.

[KiriA500]

And what nms? Oh, idk the big ones?

Comprehensive Version Update Details (12/15/2010)
http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...870ca7878fddac

Notorious monsters have been added.

Three months after launch is when Notorious Monsters were added.

[Rokien]

Three months after launch is when Notorious Monsters were added.

where did I even say nms at launch, in fact I said, he was stupid to launch it when he did, didn't I? gosh...

[KiriA500]

where did I even say nms at launch, in fact I said, he was stupid to launch it when he did, didn't I? gosh...

On this same page...

Tanaka brought us awesome nms, Yoshi gave us scrap nms just like EVERY mmo in the PAST.

What NM are you talking about exactly? There weren't even any at launch and when they came there were nothing amazing with them.

And what nms? Oh, idk the big ones?